[sword-devel] Perseus Project

[Keith Ralston]

I think integration would have to assume some connectivity to the internet.
Many applications now have this type of functionality.  The "stand alone"
UIs could launch a browser with the URL or they could integrate the returned
HTML in their own windows.  This would allow them to utilize the
functionality without the issues you have listed below.

I do most of my work from a laptop.  Therefore I am occasionally connected.
I would like to have this capability for when I do have web access.  If
their URL structure is not too difficult, I'll probably write a macro for
Libronix to allow me to do the same thing in their software.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org
> [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Martin Gruner
> Sent: Wed, November 12, 2003 2:16 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Perseus Project
>
>
> Keith,
>
> I would definitely be interested in this!
>
> However, to integrate it in the frontends would require public domain or
> licensed data files for us to use. Url integration in the
> frontends except
> for maybe the web interface does not make too much sense, does it?
>
> Martin
>
> Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2003 20:49 schrieb Keith Ralston:
> > Perseus is a digital library of ancient Greek and Latin texts.  It is a
> > treasure for research work.  This site allows researchers
> access to primary
> > sources for researching definition.  In addition to having a
> large number
> > of texts on-line, they have research tools.  This is my source for doing
> > original language Greek research.  You can look up a work in
> Liddell Scott
> > Jones for definitions that contain links to the documents from which the
> > definitions derive their meaning.  You can also search for words or word
> > combinations in thousands of ancient documents.
> >
> > I use the site to verify definitions I find in BAGD or TDNT.
> Sometimes the
> > definitions cited here and in commentaries leave out a nuance.
> This is the
> > best source I have found for researching Hapax Legomena found in the NT.
> >
> > One recent example is research I have done on Paul's use of
> diatheke in Gal
> > 3.15-25 (please forgive my poor transliterating I usually type
> in Greek).
> > Recent commentaries have surfaced the idea of a will or
> testament in favor
> > of the traditional OT covenant term for v. 15.  However, the
> word used for
> > ratify (kurow) is only found in Galatians and a few oxyrinchus
> fragments.
> > Predominantly, other language is used when diatheke means a will.
> >
> > Looking the other way, how is kurow predominantly used in ancients
> > documents?  It is primarily used of legal contracts or of laws.  This is
> > also true of athetew which occurs in the same verse.  This leads me to
> > conclude that Paul is using diatheke in the sense of covenant
> in the verse
> > as he clearly does later on.
> >
> > Having this type of material available electronically opens up
> research to
> > a level previously available to very few people.  This left researchers
> > dependent on the secondary and sometimes tertiary sources such as
> > dictionaries and lexicons.  This is not to say that they are not useful,
> > but nothing beats a primary source when you need to dig into a document.
> >
> > I have asked them if they have a format for integrating.  If not, that
> > would leave URL generation as the only method.  Their URLs seem to be
> > fairly straight forward.  I have also asked them if they have something
> > that outlines their method for generating URLs as well.
> >
> > I  know that Thesaurus Lingua Graecae has some integration with
> Perseus.  I
> > guess this means they may have some standardization.  I have asked them
> > this explicitly.
> >
> > Let me know if this makes sense.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org
> > > [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Martin Gruner
> > > Sent: Wed, November 12, 2003 1:19 PM
> > > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Perseus Project
> > >
> > >
> > > Please explain more.
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2003 19:54 schrieb Keith Ralston:
> > > > Has anyone given thought to integrating their UI with the
> > >
> > > Perseus project?
> > >
> > > > This would create an extremely powerful combination, especially
> > >
> > > for the web
> > >
> > > > based product.
> > > >
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