[sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

[Chris]

I personally would sacrifice windows L&F for the cross-platform ability.
Plus, JBuilder can produce native executables. I havn't tried 
benchmarking them,
but I presume the JBuilder environment itself uses it, and it is very 
snappy.

Costas I. Stergiou wrote:

>Actually, my full time job is java dev and it is really my
>favorite language for many reasons.
>Well, the reason I would
>not suggest java is because it is slow in the GUI, and does not provide
>a real windows look and feel. All the Java GUI programs I have used are
>indeed a bit slow and out of the windows feel. Also the JVM is not
>standard within windows. It would have been much easier for me to
>do my own work in Java (and I would have done in half the time propably)
>but I think that every language is good at some stuff and windows GUI
>is not what Java is for. I think that if you compare a native win GUI
>with any Java GUI (look, responsiveness, etc) you will agree that the
>diferrences are quite noteable.
>
>Costas
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>On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Chris wrote:
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>>Costas I. Stergiou wrote:
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>>>Some months ago I started on a software for personal use that would
>>>help in bible study. Since my best knowledge is in Java (5 years now)
>>>I started the implementation with it. Very soon I realized the (obvious)
>>>fact that Java is NOT for the Desktop.
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>>Why? My full time job is writing Java desktop (gui) software.
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>>>I thought of VB (where I also have
>>>experience) but I quickly dropped the idea since the code it
>>>produces is really slow. I ended up with Delphi (since it is really
>>>easier than C++) and now i have made a first version of a windows
>>>software for bible study. One of the reasons I didn't go with some
>>>of the already existing software is because none of these are quite
>>>good at searching/handling greek text (I am Greek) and none of these
>>>had a modern Greek translation which is the one most commonly used
>>>here in Greece. Also personal notes was really important and no sw
>>>gave real significance to that issue.
>>>
>>>I am married with one child, and my responsibilities leave my with
>>>few time to work on this project. I would be really happy though if
>>>I could help anyhow with this idea. I have recently put up a site
>>>with the software which (unfortunately?) is in greek, though I have
>>>made an english version of the software. If anyone would like to
>>>check it out here is the link for the english version of the
>>>software: http://www.theword.gr/bin/theword-en-0.99-full.exe
>>>
>>>I would be really happy if I could help out here in any way, either by
>>>giving the code, some ideas on the platform or anything else I
>>>could help with. I could also give some ideas about the Java platform
>>>since it is my everyday work for years now.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Costas
>>>(once more, excuse me for my bad english)
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>>>
>>>On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Chris wrote:
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>>>>Jason Turner wrote:
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>>>>Personally I'd rather see a Java version than .NET.
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>>>>>So, to get to my point, I was considering writing a new UI in .NET. However,
>>>>>.NET cannot utilize native C++ libraries. It can use Managed C++, C#, ActiveX
>>>>>DLL's and native C libraries. Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands,
>>>>>I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building
>>>>>the UI on top of that. Of course releasing the whole thing under the GPL.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, I'm looking for comments. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Is there
>>>>>anything that I have missed? Should I take a closer look at Diatheke or
>>>>>ActiveDiatheke? Is someone else already working on a new Windows client?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jason Turner
>>>>>
>>>>>On Monday 10 March 2003 09:27 pm, David Trotz wrote:
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>>>>>>No the windows version does not allow this. Certain versions of the bible
>>>>>>will automatically break the paragraph into seperate lines per verse, but
>>>>>>other than that the answer is no. Sorry. It may be added someday. David
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: Christopher Frazier
>>>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:52 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been looking everywhere for this, and since I haven't found the
>>>>>>archive to the lists, I guess I have to ask it here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you view the Bible text one verse per line in Sword for
>>>>>>Windows?!?  BibleTime does this in an obvious way, but I cannot figure
>>>>>>this out at all in Windows.  Does the program do this at all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TIA!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
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