[sword-devel] Web Interface

[Troy A. Griffitts]

That's pretty cool! :)  I didn't know you could do that.  Could we put 
very much text in there?  I was thinking more along the lines of like 
~20 word strongs definition.

Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote:
> Troy,
> 
> I'm not a big fan of JavaScript. I try to avoid it wherever possible, but
> like you said, we may want some features that require it.  You mentioned
> hover popups for strongs numbers. One option here instead of JavaScript
> would be to use the "title" attribute of the href tag. I created a little
> one verse demo:
> http://elbourne.org/temp/titlerollo.htm
> 
> Do you mean something like that? I'm pretty sure all modern browsers support
> the title mouseover thing, but I'm not 100% positive. Does it work on
> Ns/Linux? It works on Mozilla/Win and IE 6. BTW, The links on the demo go
> nowhere. I'm assuming we would have them go to a page with the
> dictionary/lexicon definitions and/or a concordance type listing of other
> occurrences of the same word.
> 
> by grace alone,
> 
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe@crosswire.org>
> To: <sword-devel@crosswire.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Web Interface
> 
> 
> 
>>Wow, thanks for all the traffic!
>>
>>I'm still really looking for user interface ideas (thanks for the ones
>>that have been expressed).  The calls to get the data from sword will be
>>dependent on the dynamic server-side mechanism used; coming up with an
>>easy access mechanism to the sword engine from an httpd plugin is a
>>separate issue.  (Joe, jsword is an option to solve this problem if jsp
>>is the httpd plugin, but I'm not quite sure jsword is there yet, and if
>>I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure the sword-like api interface isn't close,
>>right?).
>>
>>I definitely understand the point about not using stuff that will make
>>the tool inaccessible to some.  There are many sites that I can't go to
>>just because I run NS on Linux!
>>
>>BUT, I want cool functionality for those who have it, so we will
>>probably have an option that can be toggled.  For example, I want hover
>>popup help for strongs numbers.  Not sure how else to do that without
>>javascript (WHAT IS ECMAScript?).
>>
>>Agreed, no frames.
>>
>>OK, any user interface design ideas?  I'd love to see a mockup that
>>anyone feels inspired to throw together.
>>
>>
>>-Troy.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 YTang0648@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:08:24 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>>>>infoChi@infomagic.net writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>PHP is given out free, the same GPL style as we have but different,
>>>>
> there
> 
>>>>>are many details to it. PHP is made for many different types of servers
>>>>
> and
> 
>>>>>is very common.
>>>>
>>>>A browser which support ECMAScript/JavaScript which called Mozilla is
>>>
> also
> 
>>>>given out free, a different open source license, MPL,  is with it.
>>>
> Mozilla is
> 
>>>>made for many different types of client OS and is very common too. And
>>>
> beside
> 
>>>>it, Netscape7, AOL, CompuServ, IE , Opera, Phoneix, Chimera, Safari ALSO
>>>>support JavaScript, CSS and DOM
>>>>
>>>>And if people still concern about using ECMAScript/JavaScript in the web
>>>>interface because the browser they use is lack of the standard support,
>>>
> I am
> 
>>>>not sure people will happe with php since there are even no standard for
>>>
> php.
> 
>>>>I am not agaist the use of php. I am simply against the "no JavaScript
>>>>please" because my browser do not support it request.
>>>>
>>>>Which TEXT based browser do not support JavaScript?
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems you are not entirely informed. PHP can be completely
>>
> transparant.
> 
>>>Wether or not valid HTML/XHTML/.... is generated is the programmers
>>>responsibility.
>>>
>>>But javascript is not an option for anyone using any of the following
>>>browsers:
>>> - Lynx
>>> - w3m
>>> - links
>>>
>>>Beyond that I see no point in adding javascript when all issues can be
>>>handled very well without them.
>>>
>>>We want to be accessible to all. While a text browser works for blind
>>>using a brialle ruler, using frames and/or javascript makes it
>>
> completely
> 
>>>inaccessable to them.
>>>
>>>Hugo.
>>>
>>
>>
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