[sword-devel] ActiveDiatheke 1.2 question.html.html
Lynn Allan
sword-devel@crosswire.org
Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:26:12 -0700
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[sword-devel] ActiveDiatheke 1.2 question.htmlHi Steve,
>> I can send you a file I wrote that might help get it working again.
>> HowTo_BuildAndUseActiveDiatheke.rtf
> Please. Thanks.
After "lurking" several months on sword-develop and reading about a =
years worth of posts on it and jsword-devel, I thought I could =
contribute a fix to Active Diatheke (AD). I was interested in the =
InVerse Scripture memorization freeware program having access to =
./sword/modules/texts but was reluctant to confront the "worthless until =
proven useful" mentality about newbies that occasionaly was noticeable. =
Not wanting to appear uselessly "empty handed", I proposed fixes to AD. =
Per a sword maintainers guidance, I put together=20
http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lcdbible/LynnAllanChanges.zip
to send to them using C++ com code rather than VB. This has the .rft =
file mentioned above, the changes to actual ActiveDiatheke code, and the =
complete Visual C++ 6.0 package to exercise the revised ActiveDiatheke. =
There was also some code for ./sword/examples/cmdline to exercise the =
changes.
You would probably need to merge the AD changes from what is currently =
in CVS. The compile error was related to a missing parameter to "query" =
for "range", which I didn't understand and simply used NULL. I believe =
"range" became a new feature of 1.5.6 code, but many of the apps such as =
AD didn't stay in sync and thus "broke". My impression is that 1.5.7 =
will remove the apps from the distribution, and I speculate it is for a =
related reason for sync issues.
As far as I could tell, the AD code was fixed with something meaningful =
for "range", then applied, then overwritten sometime later and thus =
returned to broken status. I think the AD Demo VB code was changed to =
have something related to "range", so that might explain why it doesn't =
work anymore.=20
I gave up on AD and started wrestling with sword-api code directly.
> ActiveDiatheke.ocx is only 311k in size - this makes me think that the
> working routines reside in some other file(s) - swicu20.dll perhaps.
> I wonder if it might be an easier idea to try to tag along with those =
vs.
> trying to keep the ocx up.
This is the nature of static linking. The linker pulls in those routines =
from 2.5+meg swordlib that are actually referenced. Unfortuately, the =
VerseKey code has "octopus tentacles" with many parsing dependencies =
(listkey and beyond) that bloat it's size. It could be about 50kb =
otherwise, including references to compressed Bible texts. This is the =
"point" of my experiments with CanonVersifier and an "experimental =
plug-in subset" of the sword-api. The entire statically linked =
LcdBible.exe is 32kb using CanonVersifier instead of VerseKey.
ActiveDiatheke is relatively independent of icu, and it greatly =
simplifies the whole thing to use the non-icu project in the .dsp.
> Steve Tang...
I haven't been able to find your direct eMail address. It generally =
isn't included when you post to sword-devel, so some people include =
their eMail address to facilitate offline communications.
Sharing the reason for the season,
http://learningcards.eeworks.org/EeCard01.html
Lynn A.
l.allan@att.net
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Steve,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>>><I> I can send you a file I wrote that might help get it =
working=20
again.<BR></I>>><I> =
HowTo_BuildAndUseActiveDiatheke.rtf<BR></I><BR>>=20
Please. Thanks.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After "lurking" several months on=20
sword-develop and reading about a years worth =
of posts on=20
it and jsword-devel, I thought I could contribute a fix to =
Active=20
Diatheke (AD). I was interested in the InVerse Scripture =
memorization=20
freeware program having access to ./sword/modules/texts but was =
reluctant to=20
confront the "worthless until proven useful" mentality about =
newbies that=20
occasionaly was noticeable. Not wanting to appear uselessly "empty =
handed", I=20
proposed fixes to AD. Per a sword maintainers guidance, I put together=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lcdbible/LynnAllanChan=
ges.zip">http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lcdbible/LynnAllanCha=
nges.zip</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to send to them using C++ com code =
rather than VB.=20
This has the .rft file mentioned above, the changes to actual =
ActiveDiatheke=20
code, and the complete Visual C++ 6.0 package to exercise the revised=20
ActiveDiatheke. There was also some code for ./sword/examples/cmdline to =
exercise the changes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You would probably need to merge the AD =
changes=20
from what is currently in CVS. The compile error was related to a =
missing=20
parameter to "query" for "range", which I didn't understand and simply =
used=20
NULL. I believe "range" became a new feature of 1.5.6 code, but many of =
the apps=20
such as AD didn't stay in sync and thus "broke". My impression is that =
1.5.7=20
will remove the apps from the distribution, and I speculate it is for a =
related=20
reason for sync issues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I could tell, the AD code was =
fixed with=20
something meaningful for "range", then applied, then overwritten =
sometime later=20
and thus returned to broken status. I think the AD Demo VB code was =
changed=20
to have something related to "range", so that might explain why it =
doesn't work=20
anymore. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I gave up on AD and started =
wrestling with=20
sword-api code directly.</FONT><BR><BR>> ActiveDiatheke.ocx is only =
311k in=20
size - this makes me think that the<BR>> working routines reside in =
some=20
other file(s) - swicu20.dll perhaps.<BR>> I wonder if it might be an =
easier=20
idea to try to tag along with those vs.<BR>> trying to keep the ocx =
up.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is the nature of static linking. =
The linker=20
pulls in those routines from 2.5+meg swordlib that are actually =
referenced.=20
Unfortuately, the VerseKey code has "octopus tentacles" with many=20
parsing dependencies (listkey and beyond) that bloat it's size. It =
could be=20
about 50kb otherwise, including references to compressed Bible texts. =
This is=20
the "point" of my experiments with CanonVersifier and an "experimental =
plug-in=20
subset" of the sword-api. The entire statically linked LcdBible.exe is =
32kb=20
using CanonVersifier instead of VerseKey.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ActiveDiatheke is relatively =
independent of icu,=20
and it greatly simplifies the whole thing to use the non-icu project in =
the=20
.dsp.</FONT><BR><BR>> Steve Tang...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't been able to find your direct =
eMail=20
address. It generally isn't included when you post to sword-devel, so =
some=20
people include their eMail address to facilitate offline=20
communications.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sharing the =
reason for the=20
season,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://learningcards.eeworks.org/EeCard01.html">http://learningca=
rds.eeworks.org/EeCard01.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lynn A.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:l.allan@att.net">l.allan@att.net</A></FONT></DIV>
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