[sword-devel] Paul's epistles

Jerry Kreps sword-devel@crosswire.org
Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:00:52 -0600


On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:00, you wrote:
> On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:14, you wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chris" <menominee@skyenet.net>
> > To: <sword-devel@crosswire.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
> >
> > > On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote:
> > > > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> > > > > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that
> > > > > Hebrews is by Paul?
> > > >
> > > > We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses
> > > > respectively in many of our localized book names.  Does
> > > > anybody seriously believe that the Pentateuch was written by
> > > > Moses and is not an amalgam of four major sources?
> > >
> > > Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> > >
> > > > We include Daniel with the prophets, despite his exclusion
> > > > from that group in the Hebrew canon itself.  Does anybody
> > > > seriously believe that Daniel lived during the Babylonian
> > > > exile, despite his apparently not knowing that the Medes
> > > > never ruled Judea and the fact that he apparently can't
> > > > decide whether he prefers Hebrew or Aramaic, then forgets
> > > > them both and starts writing in Greek around the end of his
> > > > composition?
> > >
> > > The text is in Hebrew/Aramaic. The names of the three musical
> > > instruments are greek words (not written in greek).
> > >
> > > Not to start any arguments but...
> > > Why call matthew, matthew when it wasn't written by him
> > > same with luke, mark, john.
> > >
> > > Why believe a word john writes at all when there was never any
> > > custom to release a prisoner at pesach by Pilate?
> >
> > Apparently someone has a hard time believing the fundamental
> > truth in 2 Tim 3:16, that all scriptures is inspired by God. I'm
> > sure it will do you  good if you spend some more time with the
> > Bible that with litterature considering criticism.
>
> 	No, I have no problem believing that statement considering the
> very "Scripture" it refers to has nothing to do with any book in
> the xian bible but with the Torah. The "nt" was not in existance at
> that time. I suppose you think that paul used a copy of the KJV NT
> to teach?
>

Interesting statement.   Jude makes a similar statement in Jude 3:
"...to contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the 
saints...."

Obviously, the letter of Jude, which some historians believe was 
written between 67AD and 70AD, cannot be part of the Faith because 
Jude states the Faith was once and for all being delivered (past 
tense) to the saints.  The same would be true for any letters written 
after Jude was written, which is many of them, including Revelations.
John 5:37 holds the answer.
JLK




> 	The "literature considering criticism" you refer to is called
> History.
>
> 	As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a
> argument over this. I was merely pointing out some well known
> facts.