[sword-devel] e-Sword collaboration & other copyright matters

[Peter Snoek]

Dear Marc,

you're not troubling me... I am just new here.
You can access the OLB message board the following way:

assuming you use outlook express as news reader:
1.  menu extra | accounts | news
2.  add an item. (fill in username, email adress and news server:
NEWS.ONLINEBIBLE.ORG)
3.  a new item appears in your folder list. Click on it
(news.onlinebible.org)
4.  you can click a button to synchronize (download messages).
Hope this helps.

By the way - the OLB newsgroup is not really friendly towards the SWORD
project.
Although I was pointed to the sword projects by a friendly member,
I also received unfriendly emails about SWORD. So be warned...

Kind regards,

Peter Snoek



----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc" <marc@pesta.org>
To: "Peter Snoek" <Peter@ur.nl>
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: (was Re: [sword-devel] e-Sword collaboration & other copyright
matters)


> Dear Peter Snoek,
> Sorry to trouble you.
> I just read the below: including a comment about (news.onlinebible.org).
>
> Could you tell me how/where to join the Online Bible mailing
list/newsgroup??
>
> I would like to be able to get their stuff as well.
> Thanks,
> ..Marc
>
> At 06:04 PM 1/1/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >Interesting...
> >
> >A few weeks ago (14-12-00) I emailed the newsgroep of the online bible
> >(news.onlinebible.org) asking if there was going to be an open source
> >version of the OLB. A kind person pointed me in the right direction: to
the
> >SWORD website.
> >
> >A few days later I received a long email from the dutch distributor
> >of the OLB stating he strongly disagreed the SWORD project because
> >
> >(quote) "...their website contains mostly illegal software for
distributing
> >copyrighted bible texts..."
> >(quote") "...cannot agree with this anarchistic behaviour..."
> >
> >I think he is mis-understanding the target of the SWORD project: to
spread
> >the bible, make it be read by as many people as possible.
> >As far as I can see there is nothing wrong with using the OLB texts, when
I
> >have bought the CD-rom. OLB gets paid, I use the sword software to read
the
> >bible, everybody happy ???
> >
> >Like chris said, I think the publishers fear for 'hackers stealing texts'
or
> >something.
> >Anyway, is there really anyone who DOES own the bible?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Peter Snoek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chris Little" <chrislit@chiasma.org>
> >To: "SWORD Devel List" <sword-devel@crosswire.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 1:10 AM
> >Subject: [sword-devel] e-Sword collaboration & other copyright matters
> >
> >
> > > I got the following from Rick Meyers, who writes e-Sword.
> > >
> > > >> Quote >>
> > > Chris, we should work together to get the various publishers to allow
> > > "their" resources made available for both of "our" products.
Hopefully
> >for
> > > free!
> > >
> > > In His service,
> > >
> > > Rick Meyers
> > > rick@e-sword.net
> > > << End Quote <<
> > >
> > > He doesn't appear to be that interested in moving to the Sword API
from
> >his
> > > own proprietary format, but he's interested in collaborating on the
> > > publisher front.  Does this sound wise to the rest of you?  If so,
> >Jonathan
> > > (I figure this is your area), could you contact him, fill him in on
your
> > > work so far, and see how he can help.
> > >
> > > If we want to extend this further, I believe we could convince the
people
> >at
> > > TOLBSS to join us also in asking publishers for permission to freely
> > > distribute texts they own.  The up side is that we would get more help
> > > dealing with publishers.  The down side is that the publishers may get
the
> > > impression that they would be giving too much away by granting this
sort
> >of
> > > permission to multiple projects at once.
> > >
> > > Some good news also: I got permission from Larry Nelson for us to
> >distribute
> > > all his works, except those which require royalty payments to others.
> >That
> > > means we can distribute the JPS translation (which has been down for a
> >month
> > > or so, since I found out we didn't have permission to distribute it),
the
> > > Rotherham translation (in progress), and the Murdock translation
(still
> > > being worked on by him).  Larry is also going to contact me with some
> > > information about the Brenton, Lamsa, and Phillips translations,
regarding
> > > their necessary royalty payments.  We can judge from that information
> > > whether we want to pursue distributing them.  The payments may be
> >reasonable
> > > enough to allow us to just pay for them ourselves or we might consider
> > > something like selling unlock codes through PayPal.
> > >
> > > --Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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