[osis-core] RE: What is happening

Kees F de Blois kdeblois at ubs-icap.org
Wed Oct 6 02:36:52 MST 2004


Thanks, Fred, for this very helpful overview. I am passing it on to the OSIS
core group.
 
Greetings,
 
Kees

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From: Fred Mellings [mailto:fredmellings at tiscali.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 19:48
To: Todd Tillinghast
Cc: 'Kees F. de Blois'; Emma Canales; David Landin
Subject: Re: What is happening


Todd 
We keep going round in the same circle that started on last April
 
The last information input you had was from Kees about this 14 September
 
You have 84 books already listed The 66 standard books (not listed here) and
18 Apocrypha books (listed below) which leaves 8 books you don't cover
 
Paratext position     Three letter code                OSIS name
68                          Tob                                   Tob
69                          Jdt                                    Jdt
70                          Esg                                   AddEsth
71                          Wis                                   Wis 
72                          Sir                                     Sir
73                          Bar                                    Bar
74                          Lje                                    EpJer
75                          S3Y                                   PrAzar
76                          Sus                                   Sus
77                          Bel                                    Bel
78                          1Ma                                  1Macc
79                          2Ma                                  2Macc
80                          3Ma                                  3Macc
81                          4Ma                                  4Macc
82                          1Es                                   1Esd
83                          2Es                                   2Esd
84                          Man                                  PrMan
85                          Ps2                                  PssSol
 
Your software does not process any number higher than the above
 
The 8 books not covered in the OSIS schema are:-
 
Paratext position   Three letter code    Information from Paratext
Chapters
86                         ODA                     Odae
14
87                         PSS                     Psalms of Solomon
18
88                         JSA                     Joshua A
24
89                         JDB                     Judges B
21
90                         TBS                     Tobit S
14
91                         SST                     Susannah Th
1
92                         DNT                     Daniel Th
12
93                         BLT                      Bel and the Dragon
1
           
Note: Daniel Th. is the Daniel version by Theodotion which is a revision of
the Septuagint. The Septuagint contains two versions of Daniel. That goes
for Susanna and Bel and the Dragon too.
For Joshua there are the "classic" Joshua and part of the book of Joshua
from the Codex Alexandrinus which has been added in Rahlfs' version of the
Septuagint. This latter version only contains of part of chapter 15.
For Judges there are two versions as well, which are both complete. The
"extra" book of Judges found in Rahlfs is the one from the Codex Vaticanus.
Odae is from the Septuagint as well. These are songs but they are different
from the Psalms of Solomon. The book Odae actually is a collection of songs
from both the Old and New Testaments, like the song of Moses (Exodus 15),
Hannah (1 Samuel 2), Mary (Luke 1), etc.
Tobit S. is an additional version of Tobit from the Codex Sinaiticus.
 
Regarding Chapters and verses these are covered in the .vrs files which you
already have.
The OSIS team need to talk with someone in UBS to get this sorted because it
will keep cropping up because these books exist even though OSIS does not
recognise them
 
Fred
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Todd Tillinghast <mailto:todd at contentframeworks.com>  
To: 'Fred Mellings' <mailto:fredmellings at tiscali.co.uk>  
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: What is happening

Fred,
 
I am not sure which 6 you are talking about exactly but I think there is
enough confusion that the UBS will have to make a statement about at least a
couple.
 
Can you list the six UBS Bible book names that seem unclear to you along
with how many chapters (and what their numbers are if they don't start with
'1') and how many verses if they only have one chapter?  
 
I will offer my opinion on the ones that seem clear.
 
Todd
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Mellings [mailto:fredmellings at tiscali.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:03 AM
To: Todd Tillinghast
Subject: Re: What is happening
 
Todd,
Isn't the description (from the Paratext help) that someone sent enough?
Fred
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Todd Tillinghast <mailto:todd at contentframeworks.com>  
To: 'Fred Mellings' <mailto:fredmellings at tiscali.co.uk>  
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: What is happening
 
Fred,
 
I am not sure we can really make a reliable assessment regarding the
identification of the 6 extra books without the UBS clearly stating what
they mean for the files to be.
 
Todd
 
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