[osis-core] Collective Memory?

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:52:26 -0700


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Patrick,
 
I suspect that this was related to the following presented as a part of
the "best practice" session:
Overlapping alternant containers
Major case: For cases where there are two versification schemes AND the
verse start and end points are NOT aligned is the best practice to use
two "sets" of verse milestones?  If so are we saying that they should be
differentiated by the "work" prefix of the values within the osisID?
 
"Normal Case"
<p><verse sID="A" osisID="Ps.1.1 h:Ps.1.2"/>text text text text text
text <verse eID="A"/><verse sID="B" osisID="Ps.1.2 h:Ps.1.3"/>text text
text text<verse eID="B"/></p>.
 
...
"Non-aligning Case"
<p><verse sID="A" osisID="Ps.1.1"/>text text <verse eID="0"/><verse
sID="1" osisID="h:Ps.1.1"/>text text <verse eID="1"/><verse sID="2"
osisID="h:Ps.1.2"/>text text <verse eID="A"/><verse sID="B"
osisID="Ps.1.2"/>text text <verse eID="2"/><verse sID="3"
osisID="h:Ps.1.3"/><verse eID="1"/>text text<verse eID="B"/></p>.
 
We agreed that these cases were both correct but added (as reflected by
your note) that verse and chapters from an individual reference system
should not overlap itself.
 
Todd
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:47 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: [osis-core] Collective Memory?
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Does anyone remember what we were saying a about chapter and verse
starts?
> 
> Rough notes read as follows:
> 
> >>Multiple versification systems overlapping: Allow, but state that
> >>verses from the same system must not overlap. Add example to manual.
> >>
> >>verse/chapter starts: add to schema
> 
> Hope everyone is having a great day!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> --
> Patrick Durusau
> Director of Research and Development
> Society of Biblical Literature
> Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
> Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
> Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
> 
> Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
> 
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10.0pt'>I suspect that this was related to the following presented as a =
part of
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none'><b><font =
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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Major
case: For cases where there are two versification schemes AND the verse =
start
and end points are NOT aligned is the best practice to use two
&#8220;sets&#8221; of verse milestones?<span =
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</span>If so are we saying that they should be differentiated by the
&#8220;work&#8221; prefix of the values within the =
osisID?<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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Case&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3
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style=3D'font-weight:bold'>&lt;verse <span class=3DSpellE><span =
class=3DGramE>sID</span></span>=3D&#8221;A&#8221;
osisID=3D&#8221;Ps.1.1 <font color=3Dred><span =
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<span =
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style=3D'font-weight:bold'>&lt;verse <span =
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class=3DSpellE>eID</span>=3D&#8221;A&#8221;/&gt;&lt;verse
<span class=3DSpellE>sID</span>=3D&#8221;B&#8221; =
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text <font color=3Dred><span style=3D'color:red'>&lt;verse <span =
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<span class=3DSpellE>sID</span>=3D&#8221;3&#8221;
osisID=3D&#8221;h:Ps.1.3&#8221;/&gt;</span></font>&lt;verse <span =
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text<font color=3Dred><span style=3D'color:red'>&lt;verse <span =
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#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We agreed that these cases =
were both
correct but added (as reflected by your note) that verse and chapters =
from an
individual reference system should not overlap =
itself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3 =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Todd<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>&gt; -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org =
[mailto:osis-core-</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick =
Durusau</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:47 PM</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>&gt; To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>&gt; Subject: [osis-core] Collective Memory?</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; Does anyone remember what we were saying a about chapter =
and verse
starts?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; Rough notes read as follows:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; &gt;&gt;Multiple versification systems overlapping: Allow, =
but
state that</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; &gt;&gt;verses from the same system must not overlap. Add =
example
to manual.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; &gt;&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; &gt;&gt;verse/chapter starts: add to =
schema</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>&gt; Patrick Durusau</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>&gt; Director of Research and Development</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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Interface</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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