[osis-core] Esth. corrected

[Patrick Durusau]

Chris,

Todd can answer for himself but from my conversations with him I suspect 
that he thinks that the KJV is an anomaly in terms of modern translation 
  practices which tends to favor structures that cross verse boundaries.

Whatever the merits of modern translation practice, there are a lot of 
historical texts that do not follow that practice.

Since I was using his text as a sample, I was simply following what he 
had entered. We now have a couple of more weeks on the users manual and 
I will have time to "cook" the examples to be more focused than looked 
like I would have time to do with the original schedule.

Should have copious notes that direct a user to more advanced treatment 
of some issues, like verse boundaries. I really dislike works that force 
the reader to hunt for material relevant to their problems. Perhaps, not 
in the first beta release, we need to have indexes something like: Guide 
for Encoding Modern Translations, Guide to Encoding Classic Translation 
and the like, being pointers to the relevant materials on each one, 
perhaps not in the same order as presented in the manual.

Thoughts?

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick

Chris Little wrote:
> Todd,
> 
> It sounds like you're advocating using milestones everywhere all of the 
> time, at least for <verse>.  If that were our desire, why would we have 
> included <verse> as a container at all?
> 
> The KJV is every bit as complex as any other Bible in terms of its 
> needing milestones to mark structures such as quotations, which will 
> cross verse boundaries.  But the real issue here is to make the example 
> as simple as humanly possible.  To that end, I think it should be 
> limited to containers.  From that point, the manual can build more 
> complicated structures and detail to the user why to use milestones 
> instead of containers in certain circumstances, etc.
> 
> --Chris
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
>> Chris and Patrick,
>>
>> I think we would be doing a disservice to the newbies if we were to take
>> out the milestones.  Better to start them off right and not have to
>> relearn later.  Most real Bible's other than the KJV will require the
>> use of milestones?
>>
>> Let's show them a real but simple example.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>  
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:17 PM
>>> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>> Subject: Re: [osis-core] Esth. corrected
>>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> Why not just use container markup for the <verse>'s instead of the
>>> milestones (to avoid scaring the newbies).  I'd also recommend
>>>   
>>
>> stripping
>>  
>>
>>> out anything that uses the attribute extension mechanism
>>>   
>>
>> (x-copyright).
>>  
>>
>>> If we're giving it in our "minimal" example, it implies we omitted
>>> something very basic.
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>> Patrick Durusau wrote:
>>>   
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Patrick Durusau
Director of Research and Development
Society of Biblical Literature
Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model

Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!