[osis-core] div type="date"

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Fri, 30 May 2003 12:51:48 -0600


Troy,

How would you differentiate between the general idea of "morning" and
the precise idea of "6 AM"?  Seems like it would be ambiguous.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:34 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] div type="date"
> 
> Sorry, this may be ignorant question/comments, but:
> 
> Is there a reason for allowing AM PM at all, instead of:
> 
> 01.01 and 13.01
> 
> and my opinion is that if you want 06 and 18 to mean sunrise and
sunset
> for a certain language, then you can interpret those time as such.
> 
> 
> 	-Troy.
> 
> 
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > I think it would be nice to define as "canonical" at least one pair
or
> > values (morning/evening, AM/PM, etc...).  If I had to pick only one
I
> > would probably go with AM/PM (01.01.AM and 01.01.PM) and make
> > (01.01!Morning/01.01!Evening and 01.01!Sunrise/01.01!Sunset) local
> > extensions.  The idea being to encourage consistency.
> >
> > Naturally it would be possible for anyone to use 01.01!Matins but I
> > think they might be more of a special case.
> >
> > Question: How should we identify this "reference system" we are
> > constructing?  In the following example of what seems like a good
idea
> > to me, with the "reference system" being "Calendar"
> >
> > <osisText osisWorkID="SpurgenMorningAndEvening" osisWorkRef="bible">
> > 	<work workID="SpurgenMorningAndEvening">
> > 		<title>Morning and Evening</title>
> > 		<author>Charles Spurgeon</author>
> > 		<referenceSystem>Calendar</referenceSystem>
> > 	</work>
> > 	<work workID="bible">
> > 		<referenceSystem>Bible</referenceSystem>
> > 	</work>
> > 	<div>
> > 		<div type="dailyReading" osisID="01.01.AM">
> > 			<reference osisRef="Gen.1.1"/>
> > 			...
> > 		</div>
> > 	</div>
> > </osisText>
> >
> > Is the above structure consistent with what everyone is thinking?
> >
> > It would seem that there should be a difference between a generic
day of
> > the year (01.01) and specific dates (2003.5.30)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> >>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little
> >>Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:13 AM
> >>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>Subject: RE: [osis-core] div type="date"
> >>
> >>On Wed, 28 May 2003, Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Vigils, Matins, Lauds, Terce, Sext, None, Vespers, & Compline are
> >>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>medieval prayer times.  Lauds/Vespers would probably be more
> >>>
> > precise
> >
> >>>>for both Sunrise/Sunset and AM/PM, but since no one knows those,
> >>>
> > I'm
> >
> >>>>not recommending them.
> >>>
> >>>What would this look like?  (01.01.Sunrise and 01.01.Sunset)?
> >>
> >>I guess that sounds semi-reasonable.  At least I haven't thought of
> >>anything that seems better if we want to suggest all these times as
> >>possibilities.
> >>
> >>Maybe these non-canonical dates ought to be expressed like
> >
> > 01.01!Sunrise.
> >
> >>(And what about leap day?  That's clearly an apocryphal date.
Sorry,
> >
> > it
> >
> >>was too obvious to pass up.)
> >>
> >>Considering that Sunrise is the median point of the AM span and
Sunset
> >
> > is
> >
> >>the median point of the PM span, maybe we should just merge these
into
> >
> > a
> >
> >>more general "Morning" & "Evening" and not specify whether it
> >
> > indicates
> >
> >>point or span.  If you need to be accurate, use a time.
> >>
> >>--Chris
> >>
> >>
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