[osis-core] New milestone use of elements

[Todd Tillinghast]

Patrick,

Patrick,

You are correct that this is a fragment issue.  The information at the
w3c URL you referenced below indicates that "fragment context
specification" must be created.  It would seem that for an OSIS document
the "fragment context specification" would need to specify that ALL
hierarchies currently "active" be indicated.  I agree this should be
discussed in Aug.

Now I need to figure out what to do with documents until then.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] New milestone use of elements
> 
> Troy,
> 
> This is the fragment issue. It is tough sledding and if anything, I
> think we need to address it in August, assuming we can be ready by
then.
> Let's mark it as know issue.
> 
> For the moment, I would say from an encoding standpoint that when you
> use the mID, you have to use matching elements with the same value for
> mID. Ducking the issue of querying b/c of the fragment question.
> Answering that requires a lot more than simply matching the milestone
> element.
> 
> Note that Todd's proposal is not an answer either since getting mS or
mE
> does not answer the question either. I need to know what mS that an mE
> is pointing towards, not merely that they match, since they could be
all
> over a text. Now we have the encoder using different attribute names
and
> pointing to other values, i.e, not the element they are on. Easier to
> off load this problem onto the application and not the encoding. see
for
> example: http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-fragment for how the W3C treats XML
> fragments.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> 
> > ok, I know replying to myself is a little wierd, but after further
> > thinking....
> >
> > I understand the POSSIBILITY that there may be an excerpt with a
start
> > or end quote.  We probably should allow it.  If someone wanted the
> > last 10 verses of Jesus' Sermon On The Mount, I'd expect it to end
> > with a </q>
> >
> > BUT I still don't think we should allow a milestone without it's
> > start/end counterpart.  That's like saying we'd allow </q> without
the
> > <q>.
> >
> > I think we need to be hard and fast about the rule I stated earlier.
> >
> > So, thinking further.....
> >
> >
> > If I wanted to encode an excerpt that started in the middle of a
quote
> > and contained the end of the quote.....
> >
> > How would I encode it????
> >
> > Let's not even think milestones here.  MILESTONES should not ADD
> > functionality... Like providing the ability to solve this
problem....
> >
> >
> > Would something like this be valid:
> >
> > <q type="continuation">....</q>
> >
> >
> > dunno the best way to solve it, but it should be solved the same
> > whether using an XML container or a milestone.
> >
> >     -Troy.
> >
> >
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> Patrick Durusau
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> Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
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