[osis-core] OsisRef problem -- more thoughts

[Harry Plantinga]

Below I describe something that osisRefs can't do. It's something
I use in the CCEL and have become quite fond of, though I'm aware
others will probably consider it unclean somehow and not want to
add it to OSIS. Still, I mention it for future consideration.

Jonathan Edwards really gets into giving scripture references
to support his position.  He might have a whole string of them --
e.g.

forewarned him of the fatal consequences of his refusal, from time to
time; (<scripRef>Exod. chap. viii. 1, 2, 20, 21, ix. 1-5, 13-17, and x.
3, 6</scripRef>)

What I'd like is to link mark all of those as a single set of 
scripture passages that will pop up in a single window if clicked
upon.

You can't do that with <reference> elements because osisRefs can
take only a single osisID or range and you can't nest them. 

Todd's suggestion below, 

  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.8.1-Exod.8.2"/>
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.8.20-Exod.8.21"/>
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.9.1-Exod.9.5"/>
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.9.13-Exod.9.15"/>
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.10.3"/>
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.10.6">Exod. chap. 
     viii. 1, 2, 20, 21; ix. 1-5, 13-17; and x. 3, 6</reference>

doesn't do the job because if <reference> is treated as a link,
only Exod.10.6 will be linked.

One might also suggest something like this:

  Exod. chap. viii. 
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.8.1-Exod.8.2">1, 2</reference>,
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.8.20-Exod.8.21">20, 21</reference>,
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.9.1-Exod.9.5"/>ix. 1-5</reference>,
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.9.13-Exod.9.15"/>13-17</reference>, and
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.10.3"/>x. 3</reference>,
  <reference osisRef="Bible:Exod.10.6">6</reference>

But that doesn't really do it either. Then you have to click on each
separate reference to see the corresponding text. I want them all
to appear with a single click in a single window. 

The ideal solution to this problem (in my opinion warped though
it be by practical considerations) would be to allow a list
of ranges in osisRef, e.g.

osisRef="Bible:Exod.8.1-Exod.8.2 Bible:Exod.8.20-Exod.8.21 ..."

-Harry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org 
> [mailto:owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of 
> Todd Tillinghast
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: RE: [osis-core] OsisRef problem
> 
> 
> Harry and Patrick,
> 
> No need for a snippet.
> 
> osisRef="Bible:Matt.1.3 Bible:Matt.1.4" IS invalid.
> 
> ONLY osisID allows a list of ids (and "range" ids are ONLY 
> allowed in osisRef). 
> 
> You would have to either create two <reference> elements as in: 
> <reference osisRef="Bible:Matt.1.3"/>
> <reference osisRef="Bible:Matt.1.4"/>
> 
> OR 
>  
> Create a range reference as in:
> 
> <reference osisRef="Bible:Matt.1.3-Matt.1.4"/>
> 
> Todd
> 
> > 
> > Harry,
> > 
> > Can you forward just a snippet sufficient to duplicate the problem?
> Not
> > sure why XML Spy would be choking on the attribute value.
> > 
> > Will probably be upgrading to the "Professional" version 
> this weekend
> so
> > I can let  you know if it is a version specific problem. (I will try
> to
> > duplicate the problem before and after I upgrade.)
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > Harry Plantinga wrote:
> > 
> > >We're just about there in creating valid OSIS documents in 
> conversion 
> > >from ThML documents.
> > >
> > >The problem we are still having is in creating osisRefs that the
> schema
> > >will accept.  We're doing something like this:
> > >
> > >osisRef="Bible:Matt.1.3 Bible:Matt.1.4"
> > >
> > >The XML Spy parser seems to choke on such things.
> > >
> > >What should I be doing?
> > >
> > >-Harry
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > Patrick Durusau
> > Director of Research and Development
> > Society of Biblical Literature
> > pdurusau@emory.edu
> > 
> > 
> 
>