[osis-core] osisCore_Candidate.1.1_006 - 5 - osisID should ONLY exist in <verse>, <p>, and <div>

Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:07:58 -0600

Troy,

The examples you gave seem appropiate in that they are a part of a
universally applicable set that is not simply assigning an identifier to
every element.

The two examples given are for <div> and <p> which currently have osisIDs.
Are there other cases where you would need to use an osisID that are not
<div>, <p>, or <verse>?

Todd

>
> Actually, I was planning on using osisID in the same manner:
>
> Naves Topical:
>
> <div osisID="Faith">Faith is the...</div>
>
> Matthew Henry's Commentary:
>
> <div osisID="Matt.1.1">This geneology points out...</div>
>
> Spurgeon's Morning and Evening:
>
> <div osisID="0831">August 31: Today's reading will be in...</div>
>
>
> This is OUR (OSIS') way to describe a target in a document for an osisRef.
>
> eg.
>
> See Nave's on <reference osisRef="naves:Faith">Faith</reference>
>
>
> If I'm wrong, please let me know, because I have a number of unresolved
> issues if I am.
>
> 	-Troy.
>
>
>
>
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> > This is a different purpose that what I believe that osisID should be
> > used for.  I think that osisID should be used for things that are a part
> > of a canonical reference system.
> >
> > If there is a need create an id for every element and mark every element
> > with an identifier then we have the ID attribute for that purpose.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >>I am thinking of osisID as a way of identifying and referencing
> >>_anything_ in a document, and the document could be a sermon,
> >>commentary, poem, whatever.
> >>
> >>I don't want to make assumptions about the granularity of osisIDs
> >>that people will use.  Maybe people will want to put osisIDs on
> >>every <w>, <l>, <figure>, <head>, <milestone>, <note>, ... In short,
> >>it's hard to anticipate what people might want to put osisIDs on,
> >>and it seems simpler and cleaner to me to put it in "globalAttributes"
> >>so it goes on all non-header elements.
> >>
> >>Remember that if an element doesn't have an osisID attribute, there
> >>will be no way of referencing that element using the osisRef system.
> >>
> >>-Harry
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>>[mailto:owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>Todd Tillinghast
> >>>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:43 PM
> >>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>>Subject: RE: [osis-core] osisCore_Candidate.1.1_006 - 5 -
> >>>osisID should ONLY exist in <verse>, <p>, and <div>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I can't think of places other than <div>, <p>, and <verse>
> >>>where an osisID would be needed?  Exceptions being <l> and
> >>><item> and similar elements.  If <l> were to have an osisID
> >>>then encoding would be simpler because at present a <verse>
> >>>element MUST be contained in EVERY <l> element if you are not
> >>>using milestones to mark the verses.  (See the Ps.1-Ps.3 I
> >>>encoded a couple of days ago and posted.)
> >>>
> >>>Previously we had decided that even elements like <l> and
> >>><item> would not have osisIDs but would be contained by a
> >>><verse> or contain a <verse> (now expanded to <p>)
> >>>
> >>>The more elements that can contain an osisID the more places
> >>>and types of elements we have to handle when looking for a verse.
> >>>
> >>>Do you think we should have osisID on <l> and <item>?
> >>>
> >>>Are there other specific elements we should allow osisID on?
> >>>
> >>>I think you will agree that <work> does not need an osisID.
> >>>There are many other similar cases.
> >>>
> >>>Todd
> >>>
> >>>>I thought we were going to use osisID in LOTS of situations, e.g.
> >>>>
> >>>><p osisID="X.4">  to identify this paragraph of augustine's
> >>>>confessions as "X.4", etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>-whp
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>>>>[mailto:owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On
> >>>>
> >>>Behalf Of Todd
> >>>
> >>>>>Tillinghast
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:33 PM
> >>>>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>>>>Subject: [osis-core] osisCore_Candidate.1.1_006 - 5 -
> >>>>
> >>>osisID should
> >>>
> >>>>>ONLY exist in <verse>, <p>, and <div>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>osisID should ONLY exist in <verse>, <p>, and <div>.  It
> >>>>
> >>>should be
> >>>
> >>>>>optional with the exception of <verse>.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Possibly in milestone_start and milestone_end?  Troy?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Todd
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
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