[jsword-devel] XSLT and enrichment of OSIS Text...
DM Smith
dmsmith at crosswire.org
Tue Nov 9 13:33:34 MST 2010
On 11/05/2010 07:10 PM, Chris Burrell wrote:
> Thanks DM. So I found this page (again)!
> http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/interlinear/
> <http://www.crosswire.org/%7Edmsmith/interlinear/>
>
> And managed to replicate (and solve?) the issues I found originally
> when I looked at it before:
>
> 1st When lines in the interlinear only have 1 line (i.e. no 2nd/3rd or
> 4th line). As a result, when the text wraps, it floats below the first
> line. As a hack (although on could argue that there is an empty spot
> there, rather than nothing), I think we can put a <span> </span>
> or we could use a height maybe? (not quite so good, unless we specify
> in ems and exs). And the second thing is that within a particular word
> stack, the words might wrap. I believe this particular issue is only
> visible in IE. For IE 8, the fix is to put a whitespace: nowrap CSS
> directive. Not sure if that helps on IE6 and 7 though? Spec says it
> should be supported on both browsers.
Thanks for the info. I've rolled this into my example. Also, I have
explicitly set text-align: left since this alignment is inherited.
There still is one glitch I cannot quite figure out. If you shrink the
width of the browser so that the second verse number is at the end of
the line, then the first "word" drops underneath the number. If I pad
out the number with it makes it look worse. Ultimately it's
because of how the verse spans interact with each other. Putting the
number into the "verse" span helps.
In Him,
DM
>
> And yup, I'm targetting web environments, and also web mobile browsers.
> Chris
>
>
> On 5 November 2010 20:09, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org
> <mailto:dmsmith at crosswire.org>> wrote:
>
> I'm heading out for the weekend. In a few minutes.
> It'll probably be Monday evening when I send it.
>
> The solution uses spans with their display set to block.
>
> -- DM
>
>
> On 11/05/2010 03:55 PM, Chris Burrell wrote:
>> DM, you said you might have an intearlinear model that worked? I
>> had another look to see how I did mine previously, and found that
>> in fact I used tables. I think I struggled for quite a while to
>> get a model working across browsers using DIVs, but none of them
>> seemed to wrap properly at the end of the line. But
>> unfortunately table layouts are slow and therefore it would be
>> better to have divs.
>>
>> Would you be able to let me have your samples?
>> Chris
>>
>> On 5 November 2010 19:21, Chris Burrell <chris at burrell.me.uk
>> <mailto:chris at burrell.me.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> What's GNT? Greek New Testament? I think we can do more than
>> that too. If other Bible versions have strong numbers and/or
>> morphology tags, then we can put those in parallel, and end
>> up having French with English "subtitles", or English with
>> English, as well as English with Greek, etc.
>>
>> So I've had a look at the framework so far and it seems
>> fairly easy not to use Bible Desktop components and have a
>> good XSLT transformation. So all we would need to add is some
>> helpers that users can easily integrate into their XSLTs. It
>> would nice to have some sample XSLs for people to use. So for
>> example, I've had to strip out all the CSS and font tags from
>> the Bible Desktop one so as to produce a good XHTML compliant
>> one.
>>
>> Say we give the XSLT a InterlinearProvider initialised with
>> its version and passage, as it parses the strong/morph option
>> we can then call get($provider, @strong, @morph), which would
>> in turn optionally return the correct words (or best word
>> since sometimes you may have multiple options in modules
>> tagged with strong numbers only. In fact it would be better
>> to have something like get($provider, osis_verse_id, @strong,
>> @morph). Since then, if we don't have the morphology of the
>> word, at least we can limit the lookups to those words that
>> are tagged in a particular verse (that assumes that
>> versification is comparable between versions).
>>
>> We'll want to add options to have tagged information
>> displayed on the side of a word/phrase or below a
>> word/phrase. At the moment the XSLT displays morph and strong
>> tags next to the text. I'll add some transformations to have
>> it on separate lines. Then we can reuse the same
>> transformations to line up text beneath it.
>>
>> DM, I had a look at "flying saucer" , but didn't quite
>> understand where it comes in? Would the idea be instead of
>> the XSLT? And have it transform to different UIs?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On 5 November 2010 03:51, Tonny Kohar <tonny.kohar at gmail.com
>> <mailto:tonny.kohar at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:30 PM, DM Smith
>> <dmsmith at crosswire.org <mailto:dmsmith at crosswire.org>> wrote:
>> > Much of the transformations is done in BibleDesktop.
>> Refactoring these and
>> > putting it into JSword and/or common would be good.
>> >
>>
>> +1
>> Yes it would be nice to have this under JSword instead of
>> BIbleDesktop
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Tonny Kohar
>>
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