[jsword-devel] Hebrew/Greek defs as tooltips

[Daniel Owens]

I agree.

And I hope that more modules make use of genuine lemma (and lexica 
follow suit) because Strong's has certain limitations (and is quite out 
of date). The only challenge at present is that lexical keys are sorted 
by byte code (I think I have that right), which isn't always 
alphabetical in the language it is sorting (especially if Greek accents 
or Hebrew vowels are involved).

Daniel

On 1/11/2010 8:36 AM, Mullins, Steven wrote:
> I agree with Daniel.  A think a tooltip template like:
>
> [Lemma/Strongs]: [Morph]
>
> Would work for most.
>
> I say Lemma/Strongs because there is some variability among the modules.
> For example, TR, LXX and WHNU use a strong's number for a lemma, but
> MorphGNT uses an actual Greek Lemma.  For TR, LXX and WHNU, the
> transliterated lemma is at the head of the Strong's definition and would
> need to be parsed out.
>
> Just a heads up.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Owens [mailto:dhowens at pmbx.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:05 AM
> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] Hebrew/Greek defs as tooltips
>
> I want to affirm this effort as well. I wonder if there is a way to give
>
> access to lemma and morphology information without having to see the
> Strong's number, lemma, or morphology codes. I know that many users will
>
> want to see the Strong's numbers, but for those who are trying to read
> in a fluid fashion this clutters the screen. It would be nice to have
> access to the information without cluttering the screen. BibleTime
> implements this nicely using sword. I would think that jsword could
> handle this as well, though I speak from ignorance. Perhaps words
> themselves could be a link without the underlined blue text? There is
> just so much to commend BibleDesktop/Alkitab already. This would really
> move things forward when it comes to reading Greek and Hebrew
>
> Daniel
>
> On 1/11/2010 7:14 AM, Mullins, Steven wrote:
>    
>> Wonderful ideas!  Would be a good idea create an option for the font
>> used to render the tooltip for each language.  For example, I use
>> Gentium for Greek and SIL Ezra for Hebrew.
>>
>> Getting closer to BibleWorks!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yingjie Lan [mailto:lanyjie at yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:16 AM
>> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] Hebrew/Greek defs as tooltips
>>
>>
>>      
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am not expert either. but I do create the tooltip
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> for Alkitab which
>>>
>>>        
>>>> is using JSword as base.
>>>> - I just simply add hyperlink entered and excited for
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Tooltip displaying
>>>
>>>        
>>>> - and from the HyperlinkEvent object, I get the
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> description of the link
>>>
>>>        
>>>> - and use the description above to construct the
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> JSword Key object to
>>>
>>>        
>>>> find the particular text (strongs,morph,etc)
>>>> - then use the usual xslt tranform to transform it
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> into html text
>>>
>>>        
>>>> - and finally display it as tooltip popup.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to see the code, you can get Alkitab
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> source code from
>>>
>>>        
>>>> http://www.kiyut.com/products/alkitab/index.html under
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> developer
>>>
>>>        
>>>> section (public domain).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Almost forget, the above is the simple version. However, if
>>> you want
>>> to integrate with user options/preferences things will be a
>>> little bit
>>> complex, because you need to format the xslt transform
>>> using user
>>> options/preferences. And the source book for info (eg:
>>> bible,Hebrew/Greek def book) you also need to get it from
>>> user
>>> options/preferences (from preferred book section).
>>>
>>> And for performance (user perceived performance) I need to
>>> wrap the
>>> above code using Swing EDT for tooltip displaying, due to
>>> swing slow
>>> parsing html code
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Tonny Kohar
>>> --
>>> Alkitab Bible Study
>>> http://www.kiyut.com/products/alkitab/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Hi, this is very helpful, thank you. I have another question: Do you
>> somehow control the dimension of the tooltip box? when there is no
>>      
> line
>    
>> break, would the tool tip turns out to be too long?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Yingjie
>>
>>
>>
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