[jsword-devel] jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3

Chang chia hsiang prayer at praiseofgod.org
Sat Dec 29 09:58:48 MST 2007 

Dear jsword-devel:



chinese(simplifiedChinese)------->zh_CN
chinese(traditionalChinese)------->zh_TW


EX:

http://bibletimes.netfirms.com/bibledesktop/1.png
http://bibletimes.netfirms.com/bibledesktop/2.png
http://bibletimes.netfirms.com/bibledesktop/3.png


Thank You .




>2007 14:22:58 +0000
> From: refdoc at gmx.net
> To: jsword-devel at crosswire.org
> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3
> 
> 2 points
> 
> 1) should we really take sides in the one China/two China debate by
> asserting Taiwan being a province of China? I personally have no view on
> the matter, but would hate to offend either side by taking side.
> 
> I would suggest simplified/traditional Chinese is well understood by all
> concerned, more accurate (considering Chinese in Singapore, Malaysia,
> Indonesia, Vietnam etc) and neutral at the same time.
> 
> 2) For one reason or another despite choosing Chinese (either) in the
> nightly build (29/12) the programme runs in English only. Not sure
> what/whether I am doing anything wrong. Running it from shell does not
> seem to reveal any further info.
> 
> God bless you
> 
> Peter
> 
> DM Smith wrote:
>> I have changed BibleDesktop to allow one to pick either traditional  
>> (aka Taiwan) or simplified (aka China) in Options/Preferences.
>> 
>> Another question: Currently we are displaying digits as 1, 2, 3, ...  
>> 9. Should these change and if so, to what?
>> 
>> In Him,
>> 	DM
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Yiguang Hu wrote:
>> 
>>> DM,
>>> Your understanding of Chinese is correct.
>>> There are two major Chinese writing systems:
>>> Simplified (GB 2312) or Traditional (big5). It does
>>> not matter what dialet the user use, as long as he can
>>> read Simplified chinese, he should be able speak
>>> Mandarin. Or if he read traditional chinese, he most
>>> likely is from Taiwan.
>>> Both mandarin and cantonese from China should be able
>>> to read perferct simplified chinese, and knows most of
>>> the traditional Chinese.
>>> On the other hand, folks from Taiwan most read the
>>> traditional Chinese and should know most of simplified
>>> chinese and may have trouble to understand some of the
>>> simplified chinese.
>>>
>>> For user to select which version of Chinese, try to
>>> use GB_2312 encoding for simplified chinese (zh_CN
>>> locale), and big5 encoding for traditional chinese
>>> (zh_TW locale).
>>>
>>> Yiguang
>>>
>>>
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>>>>   1. Chinese, traditional vs simplified (DM Smith)
>>>>   2. Re: Submitting Patches  For Chinese Taiwan
>>>> zh_TW
>>>>      (Chang chia hsiang)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:07 -0500
>>>> From: DM Smith 
>>>> Subject: [jsword-devel] Chinese, traditional vs
>>>> simplified
>>>> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List
>>>> 
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;
>>>> format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>>>
>>>> I have just checked in simplified Chinese
>>>> translation for Bible
>>>> Desktop (BD) and JSword. Chang provided
>>>> zh_TW.properties files, which
>>>> I saved as is and also as zh.properties (i.e. the
>>>> default for Chinese)
>>>> I have also added Chinese as a translation choice in
>>>> Options/
>>>> Preferences. In doing this, I have made the list of
>>>> supported
>>>> translations a simple text file, called
>>>> translations.txt.
>>>>
>>>> I'm don't know Chinese (even though my son, Brad, is
>>>> learning Mandarin
>>>> and his wife, Sandy,  is Chinese from Taiwan), but I
>>>> am vaguely aware
>>>> that there are two forms of Chinese script:
>>>> Traditional and
>>>> simplified. And that there are some variations of
>>>> the traditional
>>>> script (e.g. Hong Kong) And also that Cantonese is
>>>> different from
>>>> Mandarin. And that there are other dialects too.
>>>>
>>>> I may have misunderstood, but I am under the
>>>> impression that the
>>>> script is fairly unifying across the different
>>>> Chinese languages/
>>>> dialects. That is if one person, speaking Cantonese,
>>>> cannot understand
>>>> another speaking Mandarin, that one writing
>>>> Cantonese can understand
>>>> another writing Mandarin as they would write it the
>>>> same way but would
>>>> read it differently.
>>>>
>>>> I would like some help to correct my understanding
>>>> where it falls
>>>> short or is just plain wrong. I think we need to
>>>> figure out how one
>>>> would provide both a traditional and a simplified
>>>> translation of BD
>>>> and how one would provide a way to choose between
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Currently in BibleDesktop we obtain a translation
>>>> one of two ways.
>>>> Either we take the default, which is based upon the
>>>> user's locale,
>>>> consisting of language and of country. The second
>>>> way is to go into
>>>> Options (called Preferences on the Mac) and choose a
>>>> language. At the
>>>> moment we don't support choosing a country.
>>>>
>>>> In His Service,
>>>> 	DM Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:56:10 +0800
>>>> From: Chang chia hsiang 
>>>> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] Submitting Patches  For
>>>> Chinese Taiwan
>>>> 	zh_TW
>>>> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List
>>>> 
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's great !!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much.
>>>>
>>>> jesus love you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://praiseofgod.org
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>> From: dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
>>>>> To: jsword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:45:28 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] Submitting Patches
>>>> For Chinese Taiwan zh_TW
>>>>> Dear Chang chia hsaing,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much. As you noticed posts greater
>>>> than 100K are held
>>>>> for approval. No problem as I will get the mail
>>>> directly from the
>>>>> server but won't "approve" it so that the list
>>>> stays small. Your
>>>>> posting images to an image server is the best way
>>>> to go. I'll let you
>>>>> know if I have any problem with your patches.
>>>>>
>>>>> Serving Him Together,
>>>>> 	DM Smith
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 26, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Chang chia hsiang
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear jsword_devel:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bibledesktop path for zh_TW (Chinese Taiwan),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> zip include screenshot.png and patch.txt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> test it and then check it in,please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My platform : Debian linux + eclipse +java 15/14
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>> http://praiseofgod.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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