[jsword-devel] jsword-devel Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3

Fri Dec 28 14:08:50 MST 2007

I have changed BibleDesktop to allow one to pick either traditional  
(aka Taiwan) or simplified (aka China) in Options/Preferences.

Another question: Currently we are displaying digits as 1, 2, 3, ...  
9. Should these change and if so, to what?

In Him,
	DM

On Dec 27, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Yiguang Hu wrote:

> DM,
> Your understanding of Chinese is correct.
> There are two major Chinese writing systems:
> Simplified (GB 2312) or Traditional (big5). It does
> not matter what dialet the user use, as long as he can
> read Simplified chinese, he should be able speak
> Mandarin. Or if he read traditional chinese, he most
> likely is from Taiwan.
> Both mandarin and cantonese from China should be able
> to read perferct simplified chinese, and knows most of
> the traditional Chinese.
> On the other hand, folks from Taiwan most read the
> traditional Chinese and should know most of simplified
> chinese and may have trouble to understand some of the
> simplified chinese.
>
> For user to select which version of Chinese, try to
> use GB_2312 encoding for simplified chinese (zh_CN
> locale), and big5 encoding for traditional chinese
> (zh_TW locale).
>
> Yiguang
>
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>>   1. Chinese, traditional vs simplified (DM Smith)
>>   2. Re: Submitting Patches  For Chinese Taiwan
>> zh_TW
>>      (Chang chia hsiang)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:07 -0500
>> From: DM Smith <dmsmith555 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [jsword-devel] Chinese, traditional vs
>> simplified
>> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List
>> <jsword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>> I have just checked in simplified Chinese
>> translation for Bible
>> Desktop (BD) and JSword. Chang provided
>> zh_TW.properties files, which
>> I saved as is and also as zh.properties (i.e. the
>> default for Chinese)
>> I have also added Chinese as a translation choice in
>> Options/
>> Preferences. In doing this, I have made the list of
>> supported
>> translations a simple text file, called
>> translations.txt.
>>
>> I'm don't know Chinese (even though my son, Brad, is
>> learning Mandarin
>> and his wife, Sandy,  is Chinese from Taiwan), but I
>> am vaguely aware
>> that there are two forms of Chinese script:
>> Traditional and
>> simplified. And that there are some variations of
>> the traditional
>> script (e.g. Hong Kong) And also that Cantonese is
>> different from
>> Mandarin. And that there are other dialects too.
>>
>> I may have misunderstood, but I am under the
>> impression that the
>> script is fairly unifying across the different
>> Chinese languages/
>> dialects. That is if one person, speaking Cantonese,
>> cannot understand
>> another speaking Mandarin, that one writing
>> Cantonese can understand
>> another writing Mandarin as they would write it the
>> same way but would
>> read it differently.
>>
>> I would like some help to correct my understanding
>> where it falls
>> short or is just plain wrong. I think we need to
>> figure out how one
>> would provide both a traditional and a simplified
>> translation of BD
>> and how one would provide a way to choose between
>> them.
>>
>> Currently in BibleDesktop we obtain a translation
>> one of two ways.
>> Either we take the default, which is based upon the
>> user's locale,
>> consisting of language and of country. The second
>> way is to go into
>> Options (called Preferences on the Mac) and choose a
>> language. At the
>> moment we don't support choosing a country.
>>
>> In His Service,
>> 	DM Smith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:56:10 +0800
>> From: Chang chia hsiang <prayer at praiseofgod.org>
>> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] Submitting Patches  For
>> Chinese Taiwan
>> 	zh_TW
>> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List
>> <jsword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's great !!
>>
>> Thank you so much.
>>
>> jesus love you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://praiseofgod.org
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> From: dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
>>> To: jsword-devel at crosswire.org
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:45:28 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [jsword-devel] Submitting Patches
>> For Chinese Taiwan zh_TW
>>>
>>> Dear Chang chia hsaing,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much. As you noticed posts greater
>> than 100K are held
>>> for approval. No problem as I will get the mail
>> directly from the
>>> server but won't "approve" it so that the list
>> stays small. Your
>>> posting images to an image server is the best way
>> to go. I'll let you
>>> know if I have any problem with your patches.
>>>
>>> Serving Him Together,
>>> 	DM Smith
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Chang chia hsiang
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear jsword_devel:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bibledesktop path for zh_TW (Chinese Taiwan),
>>>>
>>>> zip include screenshot.png and patch.txt,
>>>>
>>>> test it and then check it in,please.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My platform : Debian linux + eclipse +java 15/14
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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