[jsword-devel] web sites
DM Smith
dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 13 21:32:52 MST 2004
Joe,
I would like to know how to set up a test environment that simulates
production and how to build to it. If I had that I could test the
changes. It does not matter to me whether it is Windows or Linux. I can
shift my development from one to the other.
Part of the complexity is how Eclipse structures projects. Most other
build systems have a root and then recurse into sub-directories. Eclipse
does not have the notion of sub-projects, which would be necessary to
make it work.
I agree that it would be a good idea to pursue wiki for the future.
DM
Joe Walker wrote:
>
> Thanks for the comments. I'm going to fix the current scheme first.
>
> The reasoning is that our build system is complex. (And that is just
> life I think, build systems that work across several projects just are.
> If you care about a layered system then you have separate source
> directories, which means a complex build)
>
> Since the build system is complex is is frequently broken - I think it
> must be the single item most likely to be broken that we have. build.xml
> generally has the highest rev# on any project that I've worked on.
>
> BUT on the other hand some of the most important files that we have are
> the website, and there is no compile check before we commit to make sure
> that the website is not broken.
>
> A wiki would:
> - break the dependency of the website on the build system
> - shorten the distance between the edit and the view.
>
> In answer to specific points from Paul and DM:
> - The bug is "the website is unstable", and it makes the code easier to
> maintain by allowing us to spend less time on the website.
> - We can export all the data from snipsnap into xml, and then check it
> into CVS using cron. This would give us some history should we need it.
> - SnipSnap can be switched to disallow public contribution and to remove
> the comment link, giving us total control over all the content.
>
> Point taken about "not now", but I think it would be a good idea for the
> future.
>
> Joe.
>
> DM Smith wrote:
>
>> I also agree that backup and control are important.
>>
>> I have shied away from wiki because it seemed to uncontrolled and
>> chaotic. More like a joint blog. Which would be just fine for a forum.
>>
>> At this point in time, I think we need to keep the goal in mind: a 1.0
>> release. We need to consider the standard issues that are part and
>> parcel w/ a product release:
>> Correctness: Does the change fix a bug?
>> Maintainability: Does the change make the code easier to maintain?
>> Quality: Does the change enhance the quality?
>> Requirement: Does the change deliver promised functionality?
>> ....
>>
>> I also agree that the website needs some re-working. I just don't know
>> if now is the right time to change the mechanism of its presentation.
>>
>> Paul Price wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joe.
>>>
>>> I wasn't sure what SnipSnap was, so I had a quick google
>>> (http://snipsnap.org). It looks like your standard Wiki to me (and I
>>> thought that, yes, you could tell this one a mile off too....:). My
>>> only concern over a move would be that all content should be backed up
>>> and controlled. Being able to do it via CVS would be nice, but I don't
>>> think that CVS is necessarily the only way to go here.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>> <><
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