[jsword-devel] Confused again

[Chris Little]

Just to clarify what Troy is saying here in relation to how Strong's
numbers work: Strong's numbers generally mark a single lemma, a base form.  
So in Hebrew, the words for "beginning", "the beginning", "in the
beginning of", "in the beginning", and many others would all be marked
with the same Strong's number.

You can see on the entry for H7225 that it lacks the Beth- 'in/at-' that
is part of the form occurring here in Gen 1.1.

(As an aside, the translation--that is the KJV itself, not the way the
OSIS form marks it--is actually quite incorrect here.  The phrase is in
construct, so "When [he] began to ..." or "In/at [his] beginning to ..."
would be better translationa.  You'd think with all their inerrancy, the
KJV translators would have at least rendered the first phrase correctly.
:)

--Chris

On Tue, 13 May 2003, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

> The translation is actually correct.  In a literal translation, unless 
> the words are marked <transChange type="supplied"> in osis (or 
> italicized in GBF as a general rule), all previous words are assumed 
> translated from the original language word.  Therefore, all words MUST 
> either be surrounded by a <w> tag or a <transChange> tag.  Hope that helps.
> 
> 	-Troy.
> 
> 
> 
> Jacky Cheung wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am confused by specification again. I have compared GBF and OSIS data 
> > of Gen 1:1. Here is the data:
> > GBF:
> > In the beginning<WH07225> God<WH0430> created<WH01254><WTH8804><WH0853> 
> > the heaven<WH08064> and<WH0850> the earth<WH0776>.
> > 
> > OSIS:
> > <verse osisID="Gen.1.1"> <w lemma="x-Strongs:H07225">In the 
> > beginning</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:H0430">God</w> <w 
> > morph="x-StrongsMorph:TH8804" 
> > lemma="x-Strongs:H0853|x-Strongs:H01254">created</w> <w 
> > lemma="x-Strongs:H08064">the heaven</w> <w 
> > lemma="x-Strongs:H0853">and</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:H0776">the 
> > earth</w>.</verse>
> > 
> >  From OSIS, it seems that H07225 refers to "In the beginning". However, 
> > from the specification of GBF, it is the "Ordinal number of Hebrew 
> > lexicon entry for previous word", and therefore, "beginning". According 
> > to BDB and Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, H07225 should refer to 
> > "beginning". It seems that the transaction to OSIS is wrong. However, 
> > the translation was done by the program from www.bibletechnologies.com.
> > 
> > Did I misunderstand something? What's the correct translation?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Jacky