[bt-devel] Proposed change for BibleTime

Daniel Owens dcowens76 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 07:42:08 MST 2018 

Ah, okay. That's good. I just did not look very carefully for those. :)


On 10/15/18 9:27 AM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> The "space" bar acts as a pause toggle for auto scroll. In the menus 
> under "View/Scroll" you will see the 3 actions and their shortcuts. 
> The shortcuts can be changed using "Settings/Config".
>
> As for Retina, I suspect the newer versions of Qt are the source of 
> the improvement.
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
>
> Gary
>
>
> On 10/15/18 7:04 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> I renamed my sword folder, as you suggested, and installed some 
>> modules. That was the source of the problem. I have made a few of my 
>> own modules over the years, some of which may not work, and that may 
>> have been the source of the crash?
>>
>> I knew I must be forgetting something. I just now tested auto 
>> scrolling. It worked fine. The one thing I discovered from a user 
>> experience perspective is that I felt like I needed a stop button so 
>> that if I was scrolling at a higher speed I could quickly stop it. 
>> Maybe there already is a shortcut for that. I wonder if at some point 
>> it would be helpful to have buttons on the window for scroll down or 
>> up and stop. Or a right-click menu button? Just a thought.
>>
>> I am delighted to test on a Mac. Off-topic: Did you do something to 
>> improve BT's display on Retina? It seems sharper than it used to. It 
>> looks really good! Maybe that happened awhile ago, but it was a fun 
>> discovery this morning.
>>
>> After testing on the Mac in all the same ways that I tested in 
>> Windows, I discovered that it started up just fine, even with all of 
>> my modules that caused the crash on Windows. I am not sure how to 
>> explain that. But everything worked. I did get a crash while 
>> scrolling quickly through the Abbott-Smith lexicon, but I was not 
>> able to repeat the crash. Unhappily I did not capture the feedback 
>> from OSX before the program restarted. If it happens again, I will 
>> capture it before reopening.
>>
>> This is excellent. I will just keep using this version and let you 
>> know if I have any troubles.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 10/14/18 5:12 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the report. I also have seen a crash during install, but 
>>> did not capture the details. I will try this again. You did not 
>>> mention how you avoided the crash on startup you previously had. 
>>> Also, did you try the auto scroll?
>>>
>>> If you are able, could  you also test a MacOS version. It will be 
>>> the first time I have build BibleTime on a Mac, but it seems correct 
>>> to me. If you can test it download it from here:
>>>
>>> http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx3.dmg
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/18 12:42 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>> Gary,
>>>>
>>>> I tried out the new build in every way I could think, checking all 
>>>> types of modules (except glossaries), trying out parallel works, 
>>>> including different languages Bibles and commentaries, etc. I 
>>>> particularly was interested in trying ESV with Hebrew in parallel, 
>>>> scrolling from Malachi to Matthew, which Hebrew would not have. I 
>>>> was not able to cause any crashes, except occasionally when 
>>>> installing modules, after modules finished installing, BT would 
>>>> quit. But that was not in every case, and I would not think that 
>>>> was at all related to the continuous scrolling.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/18 5:08 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> On the previous message I told you the wrong directory to find the 
>>>>> "Sword" directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> On your command window type:
>>>>>
>>>>>         echo %APPDATA%
>>>>>
>>>>> It will probably say:
>>>>>
>>>>>        C:\Users\garyh\AppData\Roaming
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where the "Sword" dir is. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/2018 12:55 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I believe you saw this message in your splash screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         "Initializing the SWORD engine..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was the last message? This puts the code in "initBackend" 
>>>>>> which deals with Sword and the works you have installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "Sword" directory in your home directory contains the works. 
>>>>>> Could you renamed "Sword" to something else like "Sword.save". 
>>>>>> After restarting BibleTime, if it starts up the "Sword" directory 
>>>>>> would be recreated.  You would have to download some works to be 
>>>>>> able to go farther.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If BibleTime does start after renaming the directory, perhaps you 
>>>>>> could zip up the "Sword.save" and send it to me so I could try it 
>>>>>> on my computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:36 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, so I checked to make sure I had installed the correct 
>>>>>>> version by reinstalling it. Then I ran in debug mode, but the 
>>>>>>> debug file, which was created today, was an empty text file. 
>>>>>>> That's odd, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/10/18 1:16 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The newer vesion has "xx2" in the name instead of "xxx". Are 
>>>>>>>> you sure you installed the correct one?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If yes, please start BibleTime from an command window in debug 
>>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     cd \Program Files (x86)\BibleTime\bin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     .\BibleTime.exe  --debug
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After it hangs look in your home directory for a file named 
>>>>>>>> "BibleTime Debug.txt". It may have some clues about this issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:03 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It still hangs in the splash screen while initiating the sword 
>>>>>>>>> engine. I tried completely removing the BibleTime folder, 
>>>>>>>>> which was left after the uninstall. Still, it hangs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/18 7:26 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I found that during startup BibleTime was looking for the 
>>>>>>>>>> javascript directory in its installation. We are no longer 
>>>>>>>>>> using javascript and the directory does not exist. Sorry for 
>>>>>>>>>> that problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a corrected download for you. It also fixes a couple 
>>>>>>>>>> of minor issues I found.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx2-win32.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> btGary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2018 11:28 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Yo
>>>>>>>>>>
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