[bt-devel] Proposed change for BibleTime

Gary Holmlund gary.holmlund at gmail.com
Sat Nov 17 19:42:00 MST 2018 

Daniel,

I am aware of this issue. Selecting text across a range of verses is 
mutually exclusive with the continuous scrolling feature. It might be 
possible for me to change it to allow selection within a verse, but not 
across multiple verses.

I did change the copy command to allow choosing 1 or more verses and 
copying them. Does this not work for your case?

I don't understand cantillation and how select/copy works with this. 
Could you explain this further?

Gary


On 11/17/18 5:20 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
> Gary,
>
> I noticed a change in BT, and I am not sure if it is related to what 
> you're doing to add continuous scrolling or not. Previously I could 
> select and copy a short snippet of text by clicking and dragging along 
> the text. Currently I cannot select the text at all. Are you aware of 
> that?
>
> I ask because this is a feature I particularly like to use with 
> Hebrew, since BT allows the user to hide the cantillation, which is 
> super helpful when quoting a word or phrase in Hebrew.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 10/15/18 8:27 AM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> The "space" bar acts as a pause toggle for auto scroll. In the menus 
>> under "View/Scroll" you will see the 3 actions and their shortcuts. 
>> The shortcuts can be changed using "Settings/Config".
>>
>> As for Retina, I suspect the newer versions of Qt are the source of 
>> the improvement.
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback,
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 10/15/18 7:04 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> I renamed my sword folder, as you suggested, and installed some 
>>> modules. That was the source of the problem. I have made a few of my 
>>> own modules over the years, some of which may not work, and that may 
>>> have been the source of the crash?
>>>
>>> I knew I must be forgetting something. I just now tested auto 
>>> scrolling. It worked fine. The one thing I discovered from a user 
>>> experience perspective is that I felt like I needed a stop button so 
>>> that if I was scrolling at a higher speed I could quickly stop it. 
>>> Maybe there already is a shortcut for that. I wonder if at some 
>>> point it would be helpful to have buttons on the window for scroll 
>>> down or up and stop. Or a right-click menu button? Just a thought.
>>>
>>> I am delighted to test on a Mac. Off-topic: Did you do something to 
>>> improve BT's display on Retina? It seems sharper than it used to. It 
>>> looks really good! Maybe that happened awhile ago, but it was a fun 
>>> discovery this morning.
>>>
>>> After testing on the Mac in all the same ways that I tested in 
>>> Windows, I discovered that it started up just fine, even with all of 
>>> my modules that caused the crash on Windows. I am not sure how to 
>>> explain that. But everything worked. I did get a crash while 
>>> scrolling quickly through the Abbott-Smith lexicon, but I was not 
>>> able to repeat the crash. Unhappily I did not capture the feedback 
>>> from OSX before the program restarted. If it happens again, I will 
>>> capture it before reopening.
>>>
>>> This is excellent. I will just keep using this version and let you 
>>> know if I have any troubles.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On 10/14/18 5:12 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the report. I also have seen a crash during install, but 
>>>> did not capture the details. I will try this again. You did not 
>>>> mention how you avoided the crash on startup you previously had. 
>>>> Also, did you try the auto scroll?
>>>>
>>>> If you are able, could  you also test a MacOS version. It will be 
>>>> the first time I have build BibleTime on a Mac, but it seems 
>>>> correct to me. If you can test it download it from here:
>>>>
>>>> http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx3.dmg
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/18 12:42 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried out the new build in every way I could think, checking all 
>>>>> types of modules (except glossaries), trying out parallel works, 
>>>>> including different languages Bibles and commentaries, etc. I 
>>>>> particularly was interested in trying ESV with Hebrew in parallel, 
>>>>> scrolling from Malachi to Matthew, which Hebrew would not have. I 
>>>>> was not able to cause any crashes, except occasionally when 
>>>>> installing modules, after modules finished installing, BT would 
>>>>> quit. But that was not in every case, and I would not think that 
>>>>> was at all related to the continuous scrolling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/18 5:08 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the previous message I told you the wrong directory to find 
>>>>>> the "Sword" directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On your command window type:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         echo %APPDATA%
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will probably say:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        C:\Users\garyh\AppData\Roaming
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is where the "Sword" dir is. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 12:55 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I believe you saw this message in your splash screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         "Initializing the SWORD engine..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was the last message? This puts the code in "initBackend" 
>>>>>>> which deals with Sword and the works you have installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "Sword" directory in your home directory contains the works. 
>>>>>>> Could you renamed "Sword" to something else like "Sword.save". 
>>>>>>> After restarting BibleTime, if it starts up the "Sword" 
>>>>>>> directory would be recreated. You would have to download some 
>>>>>>> works to be able to go farther.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If BibleTime does start after renaming the directory, perhaps 
>>>>>>> you could zip up the "Sword.save" and send it to me so I could 
>>>>>>> try it on my computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:36 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes, so I checked to make sure I had installed the correct 
>>>>>>>> version by reinstalling it. Then I ran in debug mode, but the 
>>>>>>>> debug file, which was created today, was an empty text file. 
>>>>>>>> That's odd, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/18 1:16 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The newer vesion has "xx2" in the name instead of "xxx". Are 
>>>>>>>>> you sure you installed the correct one?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If yes, please start BibleTime from an command window in debug 
>>>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     cd \Program Files (x86)\BibleTime\bin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     .\BibleTime.exe  --debug
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After it hangs look in your home directory for a file named 
>>>>>>>>> "BibleTime Debug.txt". It may have some clues about this issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:03 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It still hangs in the splash screen while initiating the 
>>>>>>>>>> sword engine. I tried completely removing the BibleTime 
>>>>>>>>>> folder, which was left after the uninstall. Still, it hangs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/18 7:26 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I found that during startup BibleTime was looking for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> javascript directory in its installation. We are no longer 
>>>>>>>>>>> using javascript and the directory does not exist. Sorry for 
>>>>>>>>>>> that problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a corrected download for you. It also fixes a couple 
>>>>>>>>>>> of minor issues I found.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx2-win32.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> btGary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2018 11:28 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Yo
>>>>>>>>>>>
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