[bt-devel] New passage selector proposal

[Daniel Owens]

I love to hear that you are interested in improving how BT works with 
original languages because I am working on the Westminster Hebrew 
Morphology module. The syntax module will likely follow after we get the 
morphology module working well. Here is a summary of how the module 
works in BibleTool (online) and BibleTime:

- Lemma lookup: Works in BibleTool (not BibleTime)
- Lemma search: Works in BibleTool (not BibleTime)
- Morph lookup: Works in BibleTool (but in BibleTime case-sensitive 
issue means some results are erroneous - this is fixed in the engine but 
needs to be released)
- Morph search: Works in BibleTime (not BibleTool), but case-sensitive 
issue crops up

The ability to do a case-sensitive search will be the key to an 
effective morph search. After that, lemma search needs to work.

If you or anyone else is interested in having a single-book module for 
testing/development purposes, I can talk to the Groves Center about it.

Daniel


On 04/19/2012 07:40 AM, Rob Riebau wrote:
> I didn't mean to thrust myself forward by mentioning my background, 
> but I wanted to introduce myself as a former programmer with 
> current responsibilities.   I would like to get involved, but slowly 
> and methodically.
>
> Eventually, I would like to take a look at the original languages 
> features.  I use BibleWorks through wine (which makes it buggy), and I 
> primarily do work with the original languages.  I have been 
> occasionally waiting/searching for native linux tools.  I was going to 
> write one when I thought that I'd rather pick a good project and see 
> if I can just make some additions.
>
> The ideas for the search interface sound good.   I have 2.8.1 
> installed right now, and I notice that the search dialog is not 
> dockable.  Has anyone ever tried just making it dockable?  That might 
> be a quick fix while someone is busy refactoring.   ... I hesitate to 
> even suggest when I'm still getting the development environment setup ...
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Kevin Shenk <mailbox at kevinshenk.com 
> <mailto:mailbox at kevinshenk.com>> wrote:
>
>     Patrick, as a BibleTime user, I can say I love your ideas and
>     would be excited to see BibleTime 2.0 totally revamped in this
>     direction.
>
>     Here's my two cents:  Building on familiarity is a huge asset to
>     usability (IMHO).  You're already borrowing several concepts from
>     the web & web browsers, but I say keep going!  Realistically, most
>     of us use the web more then any other computer activity
>     now-a-days, so unless we have a fundamentally better design them
>     them, it simply makes sense to mimic their functionality.
>
>     For example, I would place the back/forward buttons to the left of
>     the location bar, with tabs above, just like Google Chrome.  I
>     would also display search results with a Google feel to it.  Maybe
>     I'm just too much of a Google fan =)
>
>     I would also combine all of the passage selection modules into one
>     unified layout, where the book, chapter, and verse could all be
>     changed simultaneously from one screen; computer screens have
>     plenty of room after all.  (Am I making sense?  Just combine the
>     top two mockups into one.)
>
>     God Bless!
>     --
>     Kevin
>
>     P.S.  Maybe the new programmer (rrieba1 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rrieba1 at gmail.com>) would be interested in joining this
>     effort?  He seems to have lots of experience and qualifications...
>
>     On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Patrick Zimmermann
>     <patrick at zakweb.de <mailto:patrick at zakweb.de>> wrote:
>
>         Hello,
>
>         since IRC doesn't seem to be a good place for feature proposal
>         and feedback, I
>         repost this as an email. This should give everyone more time
>         to respond.
>
>         I made up a new GUI for selecting passages and doing searches
>         in BT. I would
>         like your opinion on this before starting with the
>         implementation to prevent
>         extra work.
>
>         The basic idea behind all this is to provide a quicker
>         workflow for accessing
>         bible passages. Passages of which I may or may not know the
>         exact verse, i.e.
>         I have to search.
>
>         http://devel.bibletime.info/images/0/09/SelectorProposal.png
>
>         Any feedback is very welcome.
>
>         Greetings,
>         Patrick
>
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