[sword-devel] CrossWire and git

Fri Mar 17 16:32:45 EDT 2023

This thread so far mentions GitHub but some of our projects for module content development have been hosted on GitLab and some on the GitLab instance installed on the CrossWire server.

IIRC, Peter owns and manages users on the latter (git.crosswire.org), and possibly also the CrossWire organisation on gitlab.com. Correct me if I’m mistaken.

btw. Fr Cyrille also uses GitHub for some module development.

NB. Which project resides where largely depends on the copyright status of the content.

Source code development for the SWORD API is a separate activity. Are we envisaging using GitHub for this purpose?

David

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On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 20:08, Peter von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:

> I think I own the CrossWire organization though not sure anymore. I will look into it this weekend and approve you to the highest level if I can do so
>
> Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”
>
>> On 17 Mar 2023, at 19:28, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Troy,
>>
>> I know we've discussed the merge issue in the past. In order to help point in the right direction, a couple of questions:
>>
>> Do you still envision self hosting the repository as you have SVN and using GitHub to mirror, or do you anticipate self hosting a repository that is just an insurance policy against GitHub becoming unfriendly in the future? Most popular self hosting Git supports both push and pull to GitHub repositories, but the one you anticipate being the source will determine the recommendations and conversion path.
>>
>> In the Git world, the feature you're looking at seems to be known as Code Owners. It's a relatively newer feature. Here is GitHub documentation about their implementation. Https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/about-code-owners
>>
>> If you anticipate doing most of the work on a self hosted solution and pushing GitHub as the mirror, I can look for their technique.
>>
>> I'll look into the Crosswire organization on GitHub to see if I have admin rights there to address #1.
>>
>> --Greg
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 14:09 Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want this to turn into a debate.
>>>
>>> I agree, we need to move source control to git.
>>>
>>> I even mostly agree we should do most of our dev work on github for the visibility to draw other developers.
>>>
>>> To move forward with this:
>>>
>>> 1) I would actually need access to the github 'crosswire' organization, which I currently don't have.
>>>
>>> 2) I am happy to migrate our 27 repos there (yes, I was also surprised we have 27, but even these old ones would be nice to have on github for posterity).
>>> 3) After #2, I would love for Github experts to help me find a solution that effectively grant elevated access to individuals for merging PRs into our master repository without my approval FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF THE REPO they own or are trusted to approve.
>>>
>>> This #3 item had been the primary element holding us back from moving from SVN to git. If you are unaware, SVN has a very easy way to elevate permissions for accounts for parts of the repository. I don't want to have to approve all changes! I trust our pumpkin holders to care for their parts of the repository.
>>>
>>> We've discussed, in the past, submodules for handle this, but they do not handle this well. e.g., I want to grant Greg Hellings full write access to merge any PR which updates any of our cmake scripts in all folders everywhere. I don't know anything about cmake and Greg is an expert. I want him to be able to manage that build system without my oversight. I trust him. I do not want to grant Greg merge access for code that has anything to do with our C++ engine. He might be a great C++ programmer, but he hasn't expressed he wants that access or ever submitted C++ code for me to review and merge myself, so I want to protect Greg from accidentally merging in someone's PR which includes C++ engine code.
>>>
>>> In SVN this is easy. Attached is our SVN access file. Help me translate this workflow to Github. There must be some way to restrict merges based on the merging user and files modified in the PR. Or at least require a review by certain users bases on the files modified in the PR.
>>>
>>> Help me :)
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> On 3/17/23 11:24, Greg Hellings wrote:
>>>
>>>> Indeed. It's not a principled stand that I'm refusing to get Subversion going. It's simply that it's too much work that I haven't bothered and don't foresee doing so anytime soon.
>>>>
>>>> And, with no setup to automatically test the scripts in all the environments they must support, it's not likely others are willing to commit this on my behalf.
>>>>
>>>> --Greg
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 09:42 Peter von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think you misunderstood Greg.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a long campaign and strong feeling to have the project on Git but there is no agreement or movement to that. And it seems Greg is pausing his contributions until that matter is resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2023, at 15:51, ZdPo Ster <zdposter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am sorry, but I did not get the point of your reply.
>>>>>> I do not use subversion - I use git-svn as proposed several months ago on this forum. But current cmake configuration expects everybody to use subversion, which is wrong.
>>>>>> These patches improve cmake build:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -  that will work also with git-svn
>>>>>> - MSVC build
>>>>>> - fix depreciated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAIK it should cause no harm for other combinations, just improve current state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zdenko
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 23:18, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never bothered to get Subversion setup on my local machine. Remembering the setup, plus my credentials, and how to use it is more labor than I've been willing to spend on this effort. If, in the future, I overcome that inertia then I'll happily test and apply this patch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 5:34 AM ZdPo Ster <zdposter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any update on this (after 3.5 months)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zdenko
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 at 21:53, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I am not privy to the patches email inbox, so this mailing list is the way to reach me for CMake things. I'll review these when I have the opportunity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Greg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 13:46 Peter von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How to suggest improvements to the sword project?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You did it the right way. It just is a bit on/off as a project. GHellings is the cmake pumpkin holder as far as I know. I bcc him on a different email address.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Zdenko
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: ZdPo Ster <zdposter at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 22:22
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: cmake patches
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <patches at crosswire.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> please find 3 few patches related to cmake build (tested on windows with MSVC 2019):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - cmake_fix_deprecation.patch - cmake version 3.23.2 produce depreciation warning for old minimum version, co IMO it is time to increase expected cmake version
>>>>>>>>>>> - cmake_fix_msvc.patch - there is no "/O3" options in current MSVC[1]
>>>>>>>>>>> - cmake_git_svn.patch - I use git svn for accessing code, but cmake produce error because of missing svn executable. He is patch that fixed it + code for detecting svn revision (MYSVN_WC_REVISION) from git
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/reference/o-options-optimize-code?view=msvc-160
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Zdenko
>>>>>>>>>>
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