[sword-devel] Afrikaans [was: Translators Needed, Any Language]
Troy A. Griffitts
scribe at crosswire.org
Fri Jun 14 20:46:10 EDT 2019
Fr. Cyrille,
Thank you for the updated locale files. The SWORD fr locale shows a
change from Psalm 151 to Additional Psalm. I can change that if you
think it is better. But the SWORD it-utf8 locale file you have
submitted is not standard. I have already committed a few days ago your
[Pref Abbrevs] section for Italian, so if this is all you've done for
this file, it is already committed to the SWORD source tree. The file
you sent has 2 [Book Abrevs] sections split in the file, which is not
standard for any other locale and I would prefer not to commit this
file, as-is. The two UI locale files in your .xz file have been
committed. Thank you!
Troy
On 6/12/19 11:51 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>
>
> Il 12/06/2019 19:37, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>
>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>
>> Comments inline below.
>>
>> On 6/12/19 12:45 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>> Troy, why don't you not put bishop on the open gitlab (or git
>>> permission on git.crosswire?)? It would be very easier to help you
>>> with git...
>>
>> I am not sure I understand. We do have Bishop on our gitlab server:
>>
>> https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/
>>
>>
> Yes I was completely wrong excuse me!! I thought that it was not
> possible to fork and clone it. But just now I did it. The next time I
> will do a merge request. I opened issues about locales on it with the
> same missing line as Marjan Šavli. Please have a look to it.
>>
>>> For Sword I have also a question. How to automatically know if new
>>> files are added? I propose an it-utf8.conf, already merge in
>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d, but I also propose
>>> later an update very important for the fr-utf8.conf and
>>> it-utf8.conf, but it is not yet merged with the source.
>>> If you have all on git I can propose a merge request and for you it
>>> is easier to merge (it or not). And I can automatically follow the
>>> progress of the work.
>>
>> SWORD authoritative repo is still SVN. For updates, you can subscribe
>> to: http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs
>>
>> archives: http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-cvs/
>>
>> The primary reason I haven't switched this yet is that we have many
>> people with access to various parts of that repo. Some can modify
>> tests, some the build system, some filters, only a few can modify the
>> core lib source, etc. I don't want to control all the merge requests
>> to that repository. People have been delegated the authority to
>> manage their parts of the tree and have full write permissions. I
>> get emails when people commit and can view their diffs in the
>> emails. I regularly review what is committed and comment if I feel
>> the need. I don't have a good solution for this access management
>> with git. I know how git would suggest I do it. Let everyone fork,
>> modify their fork, and submit pull requests. But then I become the
>> bottleneck if I don't merge in a timely fashion, and also I have to
>> remember who has access to what, "Should this person have permission
>> to change this or that." With SVN we have an access file which
>> contains groups of files named appropriately and we grant contributes
>> full write access to the level and portions we are comfortable
>> letting them have full write access to those portions of the
>> authoritative repository.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Last question: is it possible to use a unique conf file, with books,
>>> preferred abbreviations, and book abbreviations together?
>>
>> I am not sure I understand your question.
>>
>> The _abbrev.conf files in the source should probably be retired now
>> that we have a proper [Pref Abbrevs] section in the locale file. I
>> can see a use for these possibly if, e.g., a user is using a desktop
>> app but on a very small screen and wants the full book names to also
>> be short.
>>
> You answer to my question! If I understood well, now all is in the
> conf file of the sword source, even the Pref Abbrevs? If Yes then you
> can update the french and the italian conf file. I attached it
> (without the [Prefs abbrev] part). The archive tar.xz is the new with
> the missing line.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 12/06/2019 09:16, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Johan,
>>>>
>>>> Certainly! I would love to add an Afrikaans translation. Thank
>>>> you for considering.
>>>>
>>>> The short files to be translated follow:
>>>>
>>>> https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf
>>>> (entire file)
>>>>
>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf
>>>> (PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section for
>>>> Bible book abbreviations is needed. Please do not spend time
>>>> translating this entire file. We have this file already translated for
>>>> most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is new, which adds the
>>>> preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language. This is the only
>>>> section we need)
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/11/19 1:54 AM, Johan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a need for an Afrikaans translation, maybe I can assist?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Johan Marais
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 June 2019 10:09
>>>>> *To:* SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>>>> <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [sword-devel] Translators Needed, Any Language
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Troy,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It may well be the case that there are translators that some of us
>>>>> have contact with but who are not subscribed to this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is likely to be so for those of us whose main focus is on
>>>>> text development with a view to module creation as one of the
>>>>> ultimate goals.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of the detailed work involved in such activities is done
>>>>> “off grid” (as it were) through direct personal email correspondence.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, I could ask if Brent Riggs would be willing to
>>>>> translate these text items into Polish.
>>>>>
>>>>> He’s our main contact for the module PolUgdanska.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m sure similar examples could be multiplied.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 21:32, Troy A. Griffitts
>>>>> <scribe at crosswire.org <mailto:scribe at crosswire.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We're wrapping up a new release of an app now internationalized.
>>>>> Officially we now have support for:
>>>>>
>>>>> French
>>>>> German
>>>>> Spanish
>>>>> Portuguese
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone can translate into another language and would like
>>>>> to get
>>>>> their language into this release, the short files to be
>>>>> translated follow:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf
>>>>> (entire file)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf
>>>>> (PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref Abbrevs]
>>>>> section for
>>>>> Bible book abbreviations is needed. Please do not spend time
>>>>> translating this entire file. We have this file already
>>>>> translated for
>>>>> most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is new, which
>>>>> adds the
>>>>> preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language. This is
>>>>> the only
>>>>> section we need)
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation work simply entails translating each line, after
>>>>> the '='
>>>>> sign to your language.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for considering,
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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