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I think that if some entries have a "/" we need something
stronger than a comma <br><br>
At 18:19 17/11/2012, Chris Burrell wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Sure. I was suggesting a ','
between separate entries but I can make it a '|' if you prefer.<br><br>
So it would read [to do/make, quickly]. What do you think?<br><br>
Chris<br><br>
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On 17 November 2012 16:29, David Instone-Brewer
<<a href="mailto:davidinstonebrewer@gmail.com">
davidinstonebrewer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<dd>Sounds good. <br><br>
<dd>Ah, one thought: <br>
<dd>the glosses are often more than one word, eg "to parent" is
different from the noun "a parent"<br><br>
<dd>Can we perhaps use an upright line to separate double-tags. <br><br>
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<dd>I'm very aware that the glosses are still in a bad state, even in the
NT which was supposedly 'finished'. <br>
<dd>I had hoped to hear back from Laura who did these glosses, but
somehow the OT data never got to me. <br>
<dd>I think I'll have to give up on that and use my own. <br><br>
<dd>I just checked on the size of the problem. It isn't huge, though the
OT is much more difficult, <br>
<dd>so it is worth working out how to do things in the NT to get them
right in the OT. <br>
<dd>In the NT we have 14169 double-tags, but 14116 of these have G3588 as
the first tag (ie "the" which we are ignoring)<br>
<dd>When you exclude 3588 we are left with 53 double-tags (a few more
than 14169-14116 cos of treble-tags)<br>
<dd>These occur in 39 verses in the NT.<br>
<dd>Mark 2.18-26 is a good passage: v.18x1, 19x3, 21x1, 22x1, 23x1,
26x2<br>
<dd>So Mark 2.19 is a good example:
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<dd>And Jesus said unto them, Can </u>the children of the bridechamber
fast, while</u> the bridegroom is with them? As long as</u> they have the
bridegroom with them, they can not fast.
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<dd>Another verse with 3 examples is Mk.9.42
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<dd>And whosoever </u>shall offend one of these </i>little ones that
believe in me, it is better </u>for him that a millstone </u>were hanged
about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
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<dd>This example is particularly good cos it has: <br>
<dd>whosoever</u> - an example of two tiny words which don't translate
well separately - ie ean</i> "if" and hos
"</i>which"<br>
<dd>better</u> - two words which are separated in the Greek, kalos</i>
"good" and mallon</i> "more" <br>
<dd>millstone</u> - the Greek is made of two words like the English used
to be, milikos</i> "mill" and lithos</i> "stone".
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<dd>It would be great if the display could visually depict these links,
eg: <br><br>
<dd><font face="Courier New, Courier">kalon | estin |
autw | mallon | ei | perikeitai
| lithos | mulikos <br>
<dd>better | it is | for him |
</i></font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">[better]
</font>|that | were hanged | millstone<br><br>
<br>
<dd>it is |
better | for him | that
| a millstone | were hanged <br>
<dd>estin | kalon
</i><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">mallon |
autw | ei | lithos
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">mulikos | perikeitai<br><br>
</font>
<dd>However, I have no idea how you would do this!<br><br>
<dd>as to the glosses, what about: <br><br>
<dd><font face="Courier New, Courier">it is
| better
| for him | that | a
millstone | were hanged <br>
<dd>estin | kalon
</i></font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">mallon |
autw | ei | lithos
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">mulikos | perikeitai<br>
<dd>to be | good | more
|he/her/-self| if | stone | millstone| to
surround <br><br>
</font>
<dd>Note that I've changed "I am" to "to be".<br>
<dd>I've also changed "he/himself/here" [typo!] to
"he/her/-self"<br>
<dd>(I'm going to have to go through these glosses!) <br><br>
<dd>So, wrt your original question, what about: stone | millstone<br>
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<dd>This will allow for things like to do/make | quickly <br>
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<dd>(though I have no idea if anything like this will occur. <br><br>
<dd>I don't know if you can do anything with the additional challenge of
displaying these double-tags clearly. <br><br>
<dd>David IB<br><br>
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<dd>At 14:20 17/11/2012, Chris Burrell wrote:<br>
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<dd>Hi David<br><br>
<dd>Could we standardise the typography when we have several options for
our "one-word" lexicon entries. Instead of having it with both
commas and slashes. Let's go for slashes with no spaces. <br><br>
<dd>This will allow us to do [word1, word2] for double tagged
words.<br><br>
<dd>Chris<br><br>
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