Sure. I was suggesting a ',' between separate entries but I can make it a '|' if you prefer.<div><br></div><div>So it would read [to do/make, quickly]. What do you think?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div>
<div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 November 2012 16:29, David Instone-Brewer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidinstonebrewer@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidinstonebrewer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Sounds good. <br><br>
Ah, one thought: <br>
the glosses are often more than one word, eg "to parent" is
different from the noun "a parent"<br><br>
Can we perhaps use an upright line to separate double-tags. <br><br>
<br>
I'm very aware that the glosses are still in a bad state, even in the NT
which was supposedly 'finished'. <br>
I had hoped to hear back from Laura who did these glosses, but somehow
the OT data never got to me. <br>
I think I'll have to give up on that and use my own. <br><br>
I just checked on the size of the problem. It isn't huge, though the
OT is much more difficult, <br>
so it is worth working out how to do things in the NT to get them right
in the OT. <br>
In the NT we have 14169 double-tags, but 14116 of these have G3588 as the
first tag (ie "the" which we are ignoring)<br>
When you exclude 3588 we are left with 53 double-tags (a few more than
14169-14116 cos of treble-tags)<br>
These occur in 39 verses in the NT.<br>
Mark 2.18-26 is a good passage: v.18x1, 19x3, 21x1, 22x1, 23x1, 26x2<br>
So Mark 2.19 is a good example:
<dl>
<dd>And Jesus said unto them, <u>Can </u>the children of the bridechamber
fast, <u>while</u> the bridegroom is with them? <u>As long as</u> they
have the bridegroom with them, they can not fast.
</dd></dl>Another verse with 3 examples is Mk.9.42
<dl>
<dd>And <u>whosoever </u>shall offend one of <i>these </i>little ones
that believe in me, it is <u>better </u>for him that a <u>millstone
</u>were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
</dd></dl>This example is particularly good cos it has: <br>
<u>whosoever</u> - an example of two tiny words which don't translate
well separately - ie <i>ean</i> "if" and <i>hos
"</i>which"<br>
<u>better</u> - two words which are separated in the Greek, <i>kalos</i>
"good" and <i>mallon</i> "more" <br>
<u>millstone</u> - the Greek is made of two words like the English used
to be, <i>milikos</i> "mill" and <i>lithos</i>
"stone". <br><br>
It would be great if the display could visually depict these links, eg:
<br><br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"><i>kalon | estin |
autw | mallon | ei | perikeitai
| lithos | mulikos <br>
better | it is | for him |
</i></font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">[better]
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier">|that | were hanged
| millstone<br><br>
<br>
it is |
better | for him | that
| a millstone | were hanged <br>
<i>estin | kalon
</i></font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"> mallon |
autw | ei | lithos
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"> mulikos | perikeitai<br><br>
</font>However, I have no idea how you would do this!<br><br>
as to the glosses, what about: <br><br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">it is
| better
| for him | that | a
millstone | were hanged <br>
<i>estin | kalon
</i></font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"> mallon |
autw | ei | lithos
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#FF0000">|</font>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"> mulikos | perikeitai<br>
to be | good | more
|he/her/-self| if | stone | millstone| to
surround <br><br>
</font>Note that I've changed "I am" to "to be".<br>
I've also changed "he/himself/here" [typo!] to
"he/her/-self"<br>
(I'm going to have to go through these glosses!) <br><br>
So, wrt your original question, what about:<b> stone | millstone<br>
</b>This will allow for things like <b>to do/make | quickly <br>
</b>(though I have no idea if anything like this will occur. <br><br>
I don't know if you can do anything with the additional challenge of
displaying these double-tags clearly. <br><br>
David IB<div><div class="h5"><br><br>
<br>
At 14:20 17/11/2012, Chris Burrell wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">Hi David<br><br>
Could we standardise the typography when we have several options for our
"one-word" lexicon entries. Instead of having it with both
commas and slashes. Let's go for slashes with no spaces. <br><br>
This will allow us to do [word1, word2] for double tagged words.<br><br>
Chris<br><br></div></div>
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