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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Troy & all,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">What would it take to correct the
masterRepoList.conf to list <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eBible.org/sword/">https://eBible.org/sword/</a> as the
preferred way to access the eBible.org repository? Is there any
rational reason for not changing this ASAP? I can think of a lot
of reasons to change it. (See below.) As you can see at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eBible.org/sword/">https://eBible.org/sword/</a>, I have the packages folder and the
mods.d.tar.gz file (and have for a long time, now).</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/26 11:33, Troy A. Griffitts
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hey guys. What SWORD codebase is used for the test described?
SWORD has supported HTTPS for quite some time but the build
needs to have the dependencies available. There is also in the
latest HEAD branch code which default to the HTTPS if it is
listed as preferred in the master repo list. Having a look now
it seems this was still experimental and only turned on for
CrossWire. It's been a while since I looked into this, but I
believe the repo owner needed to place files in a particular
hierarchy for it to be recognized and used.</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/masterRepoList.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/masterRepoList.conf</a></p>
<p>Here's the folder structure for CrossWire:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw/</a></p>
<p>I think the keys are the 'packages' folder and the
mods.d.tar.gz file. I believe if it can find those two, it will
prefer HTTPS if the flag is turned on.</p>
<p>Again, I think this was still experimental in trunk, but it's
been on for a while in CrossWire and so any apps compiling
against HEAD should be using the feature.</p>
<p>I'm happy to revisit this and push out a solid new release if
we can get some testing from people.</p>
<p>Troy</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/26 5:25 PM, Kahunapule
Michael Paul Johnson wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes. If you want slow performance,
keep using FTP. If you want faster performance, please use
HTTPS. Also, if you want faster performance, download <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://eBible.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://eBible.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz</a>
once and decompress it rather than iterating through each file
within the mods.d directory individually. Downloading one
compressed module description file with HTTPS instead of 1,530
(and counting) individual conf files gives you more speed and
more reliability because:</div>
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<ul>
<li>The FTP server on ftp.ebible.org has a fairly low
connection limit, and if more than 10 connections are
active at the same time, at least one file download will
out of 1,530. This does NOT scale well. I am supporting
FTP for dinosaurs, not modern software. I COULD raise that
limit, but there will always be a limit that is lower than
the number of Sword users, and there are risks to doing
that.</li>
<li>The FTP server on ftp.ebible.org is hosted on a slower
machine with a slower network connection than the one that
hosts HTTPS on eBible.org. Not only that, but currently,
if you try <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://eBible.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://eBible.org</a>,
it will work, but only by port forwarding to the same
ftp.ebible.org machine.</li>
<li>FTP is frowned upon by most people as being an archaic,
insecure, and frequently-abused protocol. For that reason,
FTP is blocked by default in modern browsers. For that
reason, I'm disinclined to spend more resources on
supporting it at a higher level.</li>
<li>My FTP server is trivial to take offline with a DDOS
attack.</li>
<li>HTTPS is supported by curl and sword.</li>
<li>The machine hosting HTTPS on eBible.org is a very fast
computer with solid state drives, lots of RAM, and a fiber
optic connection to the Internet that tests at over 2
gigabits/second sending data back to you (and over 3
gigabits/second taking your requests). It does not have a
connection limit like one that is necessary on FTP, but
rather is limited only by bandwidth, processing power, and
RAM, all of which are greater than the average dedicated
server. Every Sword user on the planet could probably try
to update at once without crashing it.</li>
<li>Downloading <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://ebible.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://ebible.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz</a>
and decompressing it gains speed because it is compressed,
and fewer bytes have to be transmitted to get the same
information.</li>
<li>Downloading <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://ebible.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://ebible.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz</a>
and decompressing it gains speed because there is only ONE
file setup negotiation to do, not 1,530 (or more in the
future).</li>
</ul>
<p>Switching from FTP to HTTPS takes a few minutes of coding
time for you. Switching from iterating through over a
thousand files to downloading one file and decompressing it
takes a bit more programming time. However, if the point is
to write Bible study software that people who hate wasting
time will actually use, that would be time well spent.</p>
<p>Any questions?</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/26 09:29, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info" moz-do-not-send="true">contact@tklein.info</a>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">So I instrumented the SWORD code
... here is some log output from the instrumented code (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="RemoteTransport::copyDirectory"
moz-do-not-send="true">RemoteTransport::copyDirectory</a>):<br>
<br>
[DIAG copyDirectory] Downloading file 67/1530:
apppbt2019eb.conf (3656 bytes)<br>
[DIAG <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="CURLFTPTransport::getURL" moz-do-not-send="true">CURLFTPTransport::getURL</a>]
URL='<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apppbt2019eb.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apppbt2019eb.conf</a>'
timeoutMillis=20000 term=0<br>
[DIAG <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="CURLFTPTransport::getURL" moz-do-not-send="true">CURLFTPTransport::getURL</a>]
curl_easy_perform returned 0 (No error) elapsed=1538 ms
URL='<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apppbt2019eb.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apppbt2019eb.conf</a>'<br>
[DIAG copyDirectory] File download result=0 elapsed=1538 ms<br>
[DIAG copyDirectory] Downloading file 68/1530:
apr2013eb.conf (3997 bytes)<br>
[DIAG <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="CURLFTPTransport::getURL" moz-do-not-send="true">CURLFTPTransport::getURL</a>]
URL='<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apr2013eb.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apr2013eb.conf</a>'
timeoutMillis=20000 term=0<br>
[DIAG <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="CURLFTPTransport::getURL" moz-do-not-send="true">CURLFTPTransport::getURL</a>]
curl_easy_perform returned 0 (No error) elapsed=1435 ms
URL='<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apr2013eb.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apr2013eb.conf</a>'<br>
[DIAG copyDirectory] File download result=0 elapsed=1435 ms<br>
[DIAG copyDirectory] Downloading file 69/1530:
apu2004eb.conf (6733 bytes)<br>
[DIAG <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="CURLFTPTransport::getURL" moz-do-not-send="true">CURLFTPTransport::getURL</a>]
URL='<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apu2004eb.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apu2004eb.conf</a>'
timeoutMillis=20000 term=0<br>
[DIAG <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="CURLFTPTransport::getURL" moz-do-not-send="true">CURLFTPTransport::getURL</a>]
curl_easy_perform returned 0 (No error) elapsed=1435 ms
URL='<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apu2004eb.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.ebible.org/sword/mods.d/apu2004eb.conf</a>'<br>
[DIAG copyDirectory] File download result=0 elapsed=1435 ms</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You see that the function is
working on downloading individual *.conf files from
eBible.org.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Each download takes its time ...
1.5 seconds!</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Then of course with 1530 files to
be downloaded we are talking about an endless operation ...</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Any advice?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Tobias</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/26 08:57, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info" moz-do-not-send="true">
contact@tklein.info</a> wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:FR5P281MB5111255EAAABCA216B05CCEDAB52A@FR5P281MB5111.DEUP281.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM">
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style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; color: inherit; background-color: transparent;">
</div>
I am now also observing the "freeze" during repository
refresh (also on PC) and it is related to eBible.org. I
debugged a little and found that it is the C++ code calling
the SWORD library that hangs at
installMgr->refreshRemoteSource.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Tobias</div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1">
<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font
face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"
color="#000000"><b>From:</b> David Haslam <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><dfhdfh@protonmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 29 March 2026 21:50<br>
<b>To:</b> sword-devel mailing list <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<sword-devel@crosswire.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true"> contact@tklein.info</a> <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true"> <contact@tklein.info></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Ezra Bible App 1.19
released</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="auto">The STEP Bible repo could be accessed from
PocketSword just now, and even also 10 minutes or so
before I read your email.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">David</div>
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 20:46, Fr Cyrille <<a class=""
href="mailto:On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 20:46, Fr Cyrille <<a href="
moz-do-not-send="true">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>>
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite" class="x_protonmail_quote">I think
step bible. <br>
<br>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/03/2026 à 18:10, <a
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
moz-do-not-send="true"> contact@tklein.info</a> a
écrit : <br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Hi Fr. Cyrille and
David, </div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">I have observed this
behavior from time to time. Not sure which
repository is causing this. </div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">I will investigate. The
only thing I can advise here is to try again later.
I agree that the behavior for individual
repositories that are unavailable should not block
the entire operation. </div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Note that this
functionality (basic module assistant and repo
updates) was not changed in 1.19, so at least this
is not a regression. </div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Best regards, <br>
Tobias </div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 3/29/26 17:53, Fr
Cyrille wrote: <br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">Hi Tobias same problem on Android !
I'm very interested by Ezra! </div>
<br>
<br>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">
<div dir="auto">Le 29 mars 2026 16:24:51 <a
href="" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext"
moz-do-not-send="true"> GMT+01:00</a>, David
Haslam <a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com"
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<dfhdfh@protonmail.com></a> a écrit : </div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote"
style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
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</div>
<div dir="auto">Hi Tobias, </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Just installed it in my iPad
Mini 4 which has iPadOS 15.8.7 (latest
supported). </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">The following occurs whether or
not the connection is via a VPN Server. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It gets stuck at 90% during
Loading Languages, and eventually displays an
error message. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Is perchance one of the
repositories currently offline? If so, it
ought to respond gracefully and work with
those that are currently accessible. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Or was the root cause something
else entirely ? </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
<img data-outlook-trace="F:0|T:1"
src="cid:A19CAA7A-3A0A-42E0-8D9C-227660F58566" moz-do-not-send="true"> <br>
<br>
<img data-outlook-trace="F:0|T:1"
src="cid:325D5138-7908-4F64-9E8C-A5DF37786450" moz-do-not-send="true"> <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Regards, </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">David Haslam </div>
<div><br>
</div>
On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 14:27, <a
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
moz-do-not-send="true"> contact@tklein.info</a>
< <a
href="mailto:On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 14:27, contact@tklein.info <<a href="
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">
contact@tklein.info</a>> wrote:
<blockquote class="x_protonmail_quote"
type="cite">
<p data-start="0" data-end="7">Hi all,</p>
<p data-start="9" data-end="267">Ezra Bible
App 1.19 has been released. This release
introduces <strong data-start="72"
data-end="98">iOS and iPadOS support</strong>,
bringing Ezra Bible App to Apple mobile
devices for the first time. It also includes
improvements to mobile usability, enhanced
module handling, and various bug fixes.</p>
<p data-start="269" data-end="337"><a
data-start="269" data-end="337"
rel="noopener" target="_new"
class="x_decorated-link x_cursor-pointer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/ezra-bible-app/releases/tag/1.19.0</a></p>
<p data-start="339" data-end="458">Downloads
are available for all supported platforms,
including updated versions in <a
href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ezrabibleapp.cordova&hl=de"
moz-do-not-send="true"> Google Play</a>
and the <a
href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ezra-bible-app/id6757127895"
moz-do-not-send="true"> Apple App Store</a>.</p>
<p data-start="460" data-end="499">Note-worthy
improvements and fixes are:</p>
<ul data-start="501" data-end="1039">
<li data-section-id="1ijiwuu"
data-start="501" data-end="530">Add iOS
and iPadOS support. </li>
<li data-section-id="185m71z"
data-start="531" data-end="575">Visualize
footnotes on the mobile version. </li>
<li data-section-id="12vurpu"
data-start="576" data-end="618">Support
image handling in SWORD modules. </li>
<li data-section-id="m0v5tr"
data-start="619" data-end="700">Support
custom Dropbox module repositories and
Dropbox-based ZIP installations. </li>
<li data-section-id="1lyt3rd"
data-start="701" data-end="781">Make the
list of shown commentaries configurable in
the commentary side panel. </li>
<li data-section-id="vtbxxy"
data-start="782" data-end="842">Make text
in the word study panel selectable and
copyable. </li>
<li data-section-id="1vkyzxl"
data-start="843" data-end="938">Improve
tablet usability, including an optimized
book selection menu in portrait
orientation. </li>
<li data-section-id="f8fhuk"
data-start="939" data-end="1039">Fix
various issues related to search, verse
positioning, commentary alignment, and
text rendering. </li>
</ul>
<p data-start="1041" data-end="1071"><span
class="" style=""></span></p>
<div class=""><font class="">Thanks to the
translators (Martin, Marjan, Tom,
Augustin, Reinaldo, Evgen).<br>
Thanks also to Karl who helped me a lot
with beta testing on iOS / iPadOS.</font>
</div>
<p data-start="1041" data-end="1071">I am
happy about any feedback.</p>
<p data-start="1073" data-end="1095"
data-is-last-node="" data-is-only-node="">Best
regards,<br data-start="1086"
data-end="1089">
Tobias</p>
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