<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Greg,<div>There’s an extraneous %s in the output.</div><div><br></div><div>If you put the enumeration after the line "There are 93 OT IDs and 5 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.” Then you wouldn’t need the heading "The following IDs don’t appear in your file:”</div><div>It’d also be nice to format it a few per line, indented appropriately.</div><div><br></div><div>I’d be happy to iterate over any suggestions we agree on.</div><div><br></div><div>DM<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 19, 2025, at 12:12 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>And here's an example now that I've fixed the output of the osisIDs when there are fewer than 100 of them:</div><div><br></div><div>[vagrant@localhost ~]$ ./av11n.py kjv.osis.xml <br> <br>Checking Calvin:<br>---------------- <br> The following IDs don’t appear in your file:<br>%s 1Kgs.22.54, 1Sam.20.43, 1Sam.24.23, 3John.1.15, Acts.24.28, Eccl.12.15, Eccl.12.16, Ezek.21.33, Ezek.21.34, Ezek.21.35, Ezek.21.36, Ezek.21.37, Hos.12.15, Isa.8.23, Job.39.31, Job.39.32, Job.39.33, Job.39.34, Job.39.35, Job.39.36, Job.39.37, Job.39.38<br>, Job.40.25, Job.40.26, Job.40.27, Job.40.28, Jonah.2.11, Mark.10.53, Mark.9.51, Num.13.34, Num.30.17, Ps.102.29, Ps.108.14, Ps.12.9, Ps.140.14, Ps.142.8, Ps.18.51, Ps.19.15, Ps.20.10, Ps.21.14, Ps.22.32, Ps.3.9, Ps.30.13, Ps.31.25, Ps.34.23, Ps.36.13, P<br>s.38.23, Ps.39.14, Ps.4.9, Ps.40.18, Ps.41.14, Ps.42.12, Ps.44.27, Ps.45.18, Ps.46.12, Ps.47.10, Ps.48.15, Ps.49.21, Ps.5.13, Ps.51.20, Ps.51.21, Ps.52.10, Ps.52.11, Ps.53.7, Ps.54.8, Ps.54.9, Ps.55.24, Ps.56.14, Ps.57.12, Ps.58.12, Ps.59.18, Ps.6.11, Ps<br>.60.13, Ps.60.14, Ps.61.9, Ps.62.13, Ps.63.12, Ps.64.11, Ps.65.14, Ps.67.8, Ps.68.36, Ps.69.37, Ps.7.18, Ps.70.6, Ps.75.11, Ps.76.13, Ps.77.21, Ps.8.10, Ps.80.20, Ps.81.17, Ps.83.19, Ps.84.13, Ps.85.14, Ps.88.19, Ps.89.53, Ps.9.21, Ps.92.16, Rev.12.18<br> There are 93 OT IDs and 5 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.<br> The following IDs don’t appear in v11n: <br>%s 1Kgs.22.54, 1Sam.20.43, 1Sam.24.23, 3John.1.15, Acts.24.28, Eccl.12.15, Eccl.12.16, Ezek.21.33, Ezek.21.34, Ezek.21.35, Ezek.21.36, Ezek.21.37, Hos.12.15, Isa.8.23, Job.39.31, Job.39.32, Job.39.33, Job.39.34, Job.39.35, Job.39.36, Job.39.37, Job.39.38<br>, Job.40.25, Job.40.26, Job.40.27, Job.40.28, Jonah.2.11, Mark.10.53, Mark.9.51, Num.13.34, Num.30.17, Ps.102.29, Ps.108.14, Ps.12.9, Ps.140.14, Ps.142.8, Ps.18.51, Ps.19.15, Ps.20.10, Ps.21.14, Ps.22.32, Ps.3.9, Ps.30.13, Ps.31.25, Ps.34.23, Ps.36.13, P<br>s.38.23, Ps.39.14, Ps.4.9, Ps.40.18, Ps.41.14, Ps.42.12, Ps.44.27, Ps.45.18, Ps.46.12, Ps.47.10, Ps.48.15, Ps.49.21, Ps.5.13, Ps.51.20, Ps.51.21, Ps.52.10, Ps.52.11, Ps.53.7, Ps.54.8, Ps.54.9, Ps.55.24, Ps.56.14, Ps.57.12, Ps.58.12, Ps.59.18, Ps.6.11, Ps<br>.60.13, Ps.60.14, Ps.61.9, Ps.62.13, Ps.63.12, Ps.64.11, Ps.65.14, Ps.67.8, Ps.68.36, Ps.69.37, Ps.7.18, Ps.70.6, Ps.75.11, Ps.76.13, Ps.77.21, Ps.8.10, Ps.80.20, Ps.81.17, Ps.83.19, Ps.84.13, Ps.85.14, Ps.88.19, Ps.89.53, Ps.9.21, Ps.92.16, Rev.12.18<br> There are 1 OT IDs and 29 NT IDs in your file which don’t appear in v11n.<br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:00 PM Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Here is an example of the first lines of running my script against the kjv.osis.xml file from the git repo:</div><div><br></div><div><br>Checking Calvin:<br>----------------<br> There are 93 OT IDs and 5 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.<br> There are 0 OT IDs and 30 NT IDs in your file which don’t appear in v11n.<br><br>Checking Catholic:<br>------------------<br> There are 4530 OT IDs and 3 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.<br> There are 0 OT IDs and 133 NT IDs in your file which don’t appear in v11n.<br><br>Checking Catholic2:<br>-------------------<br> There are 4638 OT IDs and 3 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.<br> There are 0 OT IDs and 133 NT IDs in your file which don’t appear in v11n.<br><br>Checking DarbyFr:<br>-----------------<br> There are 31 OT IDs and 4 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.<br> There are 0 OT IDs and 30 NT IDs in your file which don’t appear in v11n.<br></div><div><br></div><div>This continues on to include such output as</div><div><br></div><div> <br>Checking KJV:<br>------------- <br> Your file has all the references in this v11n<br> Your file has no extra references <br> <br>Checking KJVA: <br>--------------<br> There are 5717 OT IDs and 0 NT IDs in v11n which aren’t in your file.<br> Your file has no extra references<br><br></div><div>giving a clear example of a winner for this particular file.</div><div><br></div><div>Meanwhile, running it against the kjva.osis.xml file includes this in the results:</div><div><br></div><div>...</div><div><br>Checking KJV: <br>------------- <br> Your file has all the references in this v11n<br> There are 2 OT IDs and 5715 NT IDs in your file which don’t appear in v11n.<br> <br>Checking KJVA: <br>-------------- <br> Your file has all the references in this v11n<br> Your file has no extra references</div><div>...</div><div><br></div><div>Fiddling with the file has showed me there are a couple of places where I need to tweak it for Python 3 compatibility that I missed the last time I updated. But fixing those couple of little syntax issues resulted in it running just fine in a Fedora 41 vm with nothing more to do than invoke `dnf install python3-sword` to setup the system to use it.</div><div><br></div><div>--Greg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 10:40 PM Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">My script eschews percentages because they seemed relatively pointless to me for measuring a mismatch like this. Instead it gives a count of both Old and New Testament osisIDs that it finds missing and another that it finds unexpectedly for a given versification. If the total of either count is fewer than 100, the IDs for that particular count are printed to the console. It will do this for every registered versification in the version of the library it was compiled against, allowing the user to select whichever one seems best to them based on the results.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 10:25 PM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div> <div dir="auto">It’s not just the number of “missing” verses that should figure in the percentage score, but also the number of verses that get concatenated to the last one in a chapter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The differences in v11n for the Psalms will be especially significant for this, in that some v11n renumber many of them. Likewise for the last few chapters in the book of Job.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Aside: It would be cool to enhance the utility emptyvss by providing a command line option that would ignore books that are not included in the scope parameter in the conf file.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div><br></div> <div dir="auto">David</div><div><br></div>On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 03:18, DM Smith <<a href="mailto:On+Thu,+Jun+19,+2025+at+03:18,+DM+Smith+%3C%3Ca+href=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"> <div>
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So, I’ve been iterating with chatGPT to create a python script to find a best fit v11n. Since I don’t know python, I can’t vouch for the script beyond it worked for a simple test case that had an extra chapter for Genesis and had some extra verses at the end of a chapter in that book.
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It will score the fitness of each of the v11ns. It gives the score as a %, but I don’t know what that means. I told it that it should prioritize book matches, then chapter matches and finally verse matches. I don’t know how well it did that scoring. I didn’t test for that.
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