<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Another point is this, that using the unexpected <a href="https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/" title="trail">trail</a> which Leo gave me also <i>bypasses</i> the introduction page and takes one <i>straight</i> to the table of archives with a row for each month. <br><br><u>Aside</u>: What happened before <b>October 1999</b> ?</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 7:43 PM, David Haslam <dfhdfh@protonmail.com> wrote:<br>
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On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 6:27 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith@crosswire.org> wrote:<br>
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Fair enough of a disclaimer.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 2, 2025, at 10:39 AM, Nathan Phillip Brink <ohnobinki@ohnopublishing.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">I think Leo clearly enough said that he doesn't know the actual URI but that if this organization followed a common pattern, they might have chosen that URI. I don't think that's a hallucination, but I don't know the jargon.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">On 2025-05-02 9:18:05 GMT-05:00, DM Smith <</span><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">>:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Leo is hallucinating. This is a well known problem of GPT agents.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 2, 2025, at 8:13 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh@protonmail.com> wrote:<br><br>Hi Troy,<br><br>That's a curious question!<br><br>Me: What is pipermail?<br><br>Leo: Based on the search results, **pipermail** appears to be a term related to electronic mailing lists, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.<br><br>According to Wikipedia, GNU Mailman is a computer software application for managing electronic mailing lists, and pipermail is likely a part of this system. It seems that pipermail is used to access and browse the archives of mailing lists.<br><br>If you're looking for more information on pipermail, I can try to help you further.<br><br>Me: What is the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel ?<br><br>Leo: The URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is not explicitly mentioned in the search results you provided. However, based on the context, it appears to be related to email list archives or mailing list management systems.<br><br>From the search results, it seems that the `pipermail` term is related to email list archives, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Given this information, it is possible that the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is in the format of `https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/` or something similar.<br><br>Aside: Leo is the AI agent in the Brave browser.<br><br>So, now you know how I found it, is there something amiss with the aforementioned hostname?<br>I don't recall seeing it before, but, hey!<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>David<br><br>Sent with Proton Mail <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G">https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G</a>> secure email.<br><br>On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 1:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Don't use 'lists' dot<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="http://crosswire.org/">crosswire.org</a>. Where did you find that hostname? We have a catchall, so you can say<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/">https://bettyboop.crosswire.org</a><<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/">https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/</a>> if you want, but the certificate won't be value for that domain.<br><br>On 5/2/25 6:46 AM, David Haslam wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">If you visit (eg)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/">https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/</a><br><br>The first thing you notice is a Browser Warning that the URL is insecure.<br>The https connection falls back to insecure http<br><br>Please would someone with access to our server make the necessary changes for our list archives.<br><br><br>Best regards,<br><br>David<br><br>Sent with Proton Mail <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G">https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G</a>> secure email.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>sword-devel mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>><br>http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel<br>Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br></blockquote></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org<br>http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel<br>Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br></blockquote><br></blockquote><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</span></div></blockquote></div><br>
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