<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Karl, can you point me where in Xiphos I can find search? I’ll analyze it to see the impacts of David’s request. Thanks, DM<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:40 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith@crosswire.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 17, 2025, at 5:24 PM, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><div dir="auto">My argument is simple & straightforward.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Your argument is that display and search should have nothing to do with each other.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When you hide diacritics, you ought not to be hiding punctuation marks.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why is this so contentious?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Software changes can have unintended consequences. It needs to be carefully considered.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In what world does how a module displays require that punctuation be hidden?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>In a world where the filter is also used for search.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A quotation mark is not an accent! </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 21:06, DM Smith <<a href="mailto:On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 21:06, DM Smith <<a href=">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 17, 2025, at 4:01 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <karl@kleinpaste.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: FreeSerif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">That is, if search success depends on the specificity of whether accents or points are enabled, you're probably doing something wrong.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: FreeSerif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Absolutely.</div><div><br></div><div>What we are discussing is whether an apostrophe should be stripped out or not. The apostrophe on the keyboard is U+0027. The apostrophe in the Greek is recommended to be U+2019. They look nearly the same. There are a few other Unicode apostrophes that have the same appearance.</div><div><br></div><div>If the apostrophe isn’t stripped out, then the user input and the text have to agree on which of the several it is. There is no way for the end user to know which. I end up copying from the text to make sure I have the right one.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe the same filter that turns on and off the display of accents is used for searching. David is suggesting that the filter is taking out legitimate level 2 quotation marks from the display when it shouldn’t. I’m suggesting that it needs to remove them for the sake of the search.</div><div><br></div><div>DM</div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br>sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org<br>http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel<br>Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br></div></blockquote></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">sword-devel mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</span></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>