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<p>I believe we support this in SWORD:</p>
<p>```</p>
<p>[tgriffitts@fedora filters]$ grep overline *<br>
osishtmlhref.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type ==
"overline" || type == "x-overline") {<br>
osishtmlhref.cpp: outText("<span
style=\"text-decoration:overline\">", buf, u);<br>
osislatex.cpp: // there is no officially supported
OSIS overline attribute,<br>
osislatex.cpp: // thus either TEI overline or OSIS
x-overline would be best,<br>
osislatex.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made
available, these should all<br>
osislatex.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type ==
"overline" || type == "x-overline") {<br>
osislatex.cpp: outText("\\textoverline{", buf,
u);<br>
osisplain.cpp: // there is no officially supported
OSIS overline attribute,<br>
osisplain.cpp: // thus either TEI overline or OSIS
x-overline would be best,<br>
osisplain.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made
available, these should all<br>
osisplain.cpp: if (strstr(token, "rend=\"ol\"") ||
strstr(token, "rend=\"x-overline\"") || strstr(token,
"rend=\"overline\"")<br>
osisplain.cpp: || strstr(token, "type=\"ol\"")
|| strstr(token, "type=\"x-overline\"") || strstr(token,
"type=\"overline\"")) {<br>
osisplain.cpp: u->hiType = "overline";<br>
osisplain.cpp: if (u->hiType == "overline") {<br>
osisxhtml.cpp: .overline { text-decoration: overline; }\n\<br>
osisxhtml.cpp: // there is no officially supported
OSIS overline attribute,<br>
osisxhtml.cpp: // thus either TEI overline or OSIS
x-overline would be best,<br>
osisxhtml.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made
available, these should all<br>
osisxhtml.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type ==
"overline" || type == "x-overline") {<br>
osisxhtml.cpp: outText("<span
class=\"overline\">", buf, u);<br>
teihtmlhref.cpp: else if (rend == "overline")<br>
teihtmlhref.cpp: buf += "<span
style=\"text-decoration:overline\">";<br>
teihtmlhref.cpp: else if (rend == "overline")<br>
teilatex.cpp: else if (rend == "overline")<br>
teilatex.cpp: buf += "\\overline{";<br>
teixhtml.cpp: else if (rend == "overline")<br>
teixhtml.cpp: buf += "<span
style=\"text-decoration:overline\">";<br>
teixhtml.cpp: else if (rend == "overline")<br>
```</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/14/25 3:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Thanks
DM,</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">As
and when we get a fix on this for SWORD as well as JSword, we
should add a suitable description in <a
href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Miscellaneous"
moz-do-not-send="true">OSIS Bibles - CrossWire Bible Society</a></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span
style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">We
might even use the<span> </span></span><i
style="scrollbar-width: thin; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b
style="scrollbar-width:thin">nomen-sacrum</b></i><span
style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span> </span>case
as the illustrated example.</span><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span
style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>
</span></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Can
anyone familiar with how SWORD works tell us whether</div>
<blockquote
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></span><span
style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"><hi</span><span
style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px"><span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"> </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">rend</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">="</span><span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">overline</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">"</span></span><span
style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">></span><span
style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">θς</span><span
style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"></hi></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></span></div>
</blockquote>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">would
be correctly rendered by SWORD?</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">And
would we need to specify this within an eXtended <b>type</b>
attribute value (one with an "x-" prefix) for the <b>abbr</b>
element?</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span
style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"><abbr</span><span><span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"> </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">type</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">="x-</span><span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">nomSac</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">"</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">></span></span>
<div
style="margin-left: 1em; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"><hi</span><span><span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"> </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">rend</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">="</span><span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">overline</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">"</span></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">></span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;">θς</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"></hi></span></div>
</div>
<span
style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;"></abbr></span></span><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
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<div class="protonmail_quote"> On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 1:58
PM, DM Smith <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org"><dmsmith@crosswire.org></a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"> Regarding
JSword, it supports some TEI within OSIS. Specifically it
supports hi with TEI’s attribute rend in addition to OSIS’s
attribute type. Chris Little directed that this should be so.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It has been a long time since we discussed this, so my
memory might be faulty that OSIS was based on TEI and
SWORD/JSword would allow some TEI constructs with the OSIS
filter.</div>
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<div>JSword needs a small, easy change to support overline. At
this time, it will show the text without any decoration. It
should be added to our edition of OSIS.<br
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<div>On Mar 14, 2025, at 4:55 AM, David Haslam
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<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hi Troy,<br>
<br>
Does SWORD support an OSIS equivalent to this TEI
snippet?</div>
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style="border-left: 3px solid rgb(200, 200, 200); border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-right-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-bottom-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); padding-left: 10px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
<div
style="margin-left: 1em; font-family: monospace; font-size: 13px;">
<div><span><span><abbr<span><span> </span><span>type</span>="<span>nomSac</span>"</span>></span></span>
<div style="margin-left:1em">
<div><span><hi<span><span> </span><span>rend</span>="<span>overline</span>"</span>></span><span>θς</span><span></hi></span></div>
</div>
<span><span></abbr></span></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Not asking
about the <b>abbr</b> element, but the <b>rend="overline"</b>
attribute for the <b>hi</b> element.</div>
<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Rendering text
with <b>overline</b> is not documented in the <b>OSIS
User Manual</b>.<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
<ol style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
data-editing-info="{"orderedStyleType":1,"unorderedStyleType":1}">
<li style="list-style-type: "1. ";"><span>Has
this ever been tested in SWORD front-ends?<br>
</span></li>
<li
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; list-style-type: "2. ";">How
about JSword-based apps?<br>
</li>
</ol>
</div>
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2025 at 8:48 AM, David Haslam
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style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Follow-up...<br>
<br>
The screenshot image in my <u>previous reply</u>
is what I saw in <b>Safari</b> when I clicked
Troy's link while viewing messages from my <b>iPad
Mini 4</b>.<br>
<br>
Now that I've done likewise while viewing
messages from my <b>Windows 11 PC</b>, I see a
proper XML file via the <b>Edge</b> browser!<br>
<br>
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style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
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style="border-left: 3px solid rgb(200, 200, 200); border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-right-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-bottom-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); padding-left: 10px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
<div><span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><w></span></span>
<div style="margin-left:1em">
<div>
<div><span
style="user-select: none; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; margin-left: -10px; width: 10px; background: url(https://mail.proton.me/api/core/v4/images?Url=data%3Aimage%2Fsvg%2Bxml%2C%253Csvg%2520xmlns%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%2520fill%3D%252523909090%2520width%3D10%2520height%3D10%253E%253Cpath%2520d%3DM0%25200%2520L8%25200%2520L4%25207%2520Z%2F%253E%253C%2Fsvg%253E&DryRun=0&UID=pswsucgulompycdx2mconjmu5d5yfhun); vertical-align: bottom; height: 10px;"></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><abbr</span><span><span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"> </span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">type</span></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">="</span><span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">nomSac</span></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">"</span></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">></span></div>
<div style="margin-left:1em">
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><hi</span><span><span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"> </span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">rend</span></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">="</span><span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">overline</span></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">"</span></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">θς</span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></hi></span></div>
</div>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></abbr></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></w></span></div>
</div>
<span></span>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><w></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">τον</span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></w></span></div>
<span></span>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><w></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">κοσμον</span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></w></span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><pc></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">·</span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></pc></span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><lb/></span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><w></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">ωστε</span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></w></span></div>
<span></span>
<div><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><w></span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">τον</span><span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"></w></span><span><br>
</span></div>
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Just shows that WYSINAWYG ! 🥸</div>
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Hi Troy,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Above is what I see after I
clicked your link! Not sure if that’s what
you intended.</div>
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<div dir="auto">David</div>
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On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 23:52, Troy A.
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<p>This is how we record nomen sacrum in TEI
and should transfer to OSIS just fine,
e.g.,</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/vmr/api/transcript/get/?docID=20001&indexContent=John.3.16&format=teiraw"
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On 3/13/25
4:28 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: <br>
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<div dir="ltr"> I think the best and
correct way is to call this ‘display’
and encode the exact look you want to
achieve via style sheet. </div>
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<div
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require that we devise a means to encode
in the OSIS the equivalent to what was
used in the underlying Wiki format ! </div>
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<span style="line-height: normal;">{{overline|ΘΥ}}</span>
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SWORD engine has a means to implement
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email. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
</div>
<div class="protonmail_quote"> On
Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM,
David Haslam <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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moz-do-not-send="true"><dfhdfh@protonmail.com></a>
wrote: <br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> Thanks, Alan,
for the explanation. </div>
<div dir="ltr" class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
</div>
<div class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> This then
prompts a suggestion as to the
potential use of the OSIS <b>abbr</b> element
for each instance. This would require
that each type of <b><i>nomina sacrum</i></b> would
then need to be retained as the
abbreviation, and then expanded using
the XML attribute, e.g. </div>
<div dir="ltr" class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
</div>
<div class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"> <span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace; line-height: normal;"><abbr
expansion="Θεοῦ"></span> <span
style="font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(32, 33, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: normal;">ΘΥ</span>
<span
style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace; line-height: normal;"></abbr></span>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
</div>
<div class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> Please refer
to the <b>OSIS User Manual</b> section
13.2 <br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> NB. I don't
know whether the SWORD engine has any
code to display the expansions! </div>
<div class="protonmail_quote"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <i>The coders
might enlighten us on this point. I
have therefore cc: to </i> <b><i>sword-devel</i></b>
<i> in this reply.<br>
</i> <br>
<br>
</div>
<div
class="protonmail_signature_block-user"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> Best regards,
<br>
<br>
David </div>
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<div class="protonmail_quote"> On
Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM,
Alan Bunning <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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<blockquote>
<div class="protonmail_quote"> Yes,
that symbol is used to mark nomina
sacra. <br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="moz-signature"> <i>Alan
Bunning, D.Litt.<br>
Executive Director<br>
Center for New Testament
Restoration<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On
3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán
wrote: <br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr"
class="protonmail_quote"> Dear
Alan, </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="protonmail_quote"> I
received the following emails. I
haven't looked into them very
much, but maybe you want to join
the conversation. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="protonmail_quote">
Blessings, Zoltan <br>
<br>
</div>
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Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37 <br>
Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta
Module: StatResGNT <br>
To: pierre amadio < <a
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<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hi Pierre,<br>
<br>
That's a very plausible
explanation!<br>
<br>
Here are the relevant lines from
my <b>word count</b>.</span></p>
<blockquote
style="padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: 3px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(200, 200, 200);">
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
Word Count </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεέ 2 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεοῦ 690 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεόν 73 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεός 68 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεὸν 72 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεὸς 239 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Θεῷ 158 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κυρίου 231 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κυρίῳ 95 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κύριε 89 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κύριον 63 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κύριος 139 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κύριόν 1 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Κύριός 10 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Πνεύματι 59 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Πνεύματος 79 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Πνεύματός 5 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Πνεῦμά 7 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Πνεῦμα 99 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστέ 1 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστοῦ 252 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστόν 18 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστός 41 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστὸν 48 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστὸς 71 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Χριστῷ 104 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚θεὸς 1 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Ἰησοῦ 329 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Ἰησοῦν 126 </div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
˚Ἰησοῦς 456 </div>
</blockquote>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
NB. If this is a technical means
to mark the use of <b><i>nomina
sacra</i></b>, then it ought
to be described in the conf file!
<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> Best regards,
<br>
<br>
David </div>
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class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
</div>
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style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <br>
<br>
On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at
1:11 PM, pierre amadio <a
href="mailto:amadio.pierre@gmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">amadio.pierre@gmail.com</a>
wrote: </div>
<blockquote>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hi there.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">As far as I
know, there is no such greek
accent as a circular mark<br>
such as Ring Above (U+02DA).<br>
Looking at the source text,
they seem to always appears
next to words such as<br>
<a
href="https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt</a><br>
˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ,<br>
˚Πνεύματος<br>
˚Κυρίου</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Could it be a
way to mark the use of a
nomina sacra in manuscripts ?<br>
<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra</a></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">On Thu, 13 Mar
2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán <a
href="mailto:kovzol@gmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">kovzol@gmail.com</a>
wrote:</span></p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Thanks, David,
I will look into it and get
back to you.<br>
Best, Zoltan</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">David Haslam <a
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>
ezt írta (időpont: 2025.
márc. 13., Cs, 13:33):</span></p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Arising from
the grapheme count, I have
a further technical query.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">There are 3626
instances of U+02DA RING
ABOVE.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I am wondering
whether these would be
better being all replaced
by U+030A COMBINING RING
ABOVE, and if so, whether
the mark should follow the
Greek letter rather than
precede it.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">NB. My
knowledge of Ancient Greek
accents rules is fairly
limited.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Q. What is the
most suitable Unicode font
for viewing a Greek NT
text?<br>
Might it be sensible to
include such an element in
the .conf file?</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Best regards,</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">David</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
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<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">On Thursday,
March 13th, 2025 at 12:13
PM, David Haslam <a
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>
wrote:</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hi Kovács,</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Using BabelPad
Tools, I have just done a
grapheme count on the full
Greek text with accents.<br>
i.e. After first stripping
out the references from
the diatheke output. See
inside attached 7-Zip
file.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">There are two
left/right count
mismatches that ought to
be looked at.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">2018 ‘ 483<br>
2019 ’ 484<br>
201C “ 1,904<br>
201D ” 1,907</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">cf. The counts
of left/right parentheses
were OK.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">0028 ( 62<br>
0029 ) 62</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Best regards,</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">David</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
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<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">On Thursday,
March 13th, 2025 at 11:59
AM, David Haslam <a
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>
wrote:</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">This module has
the wrong Versification.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">It's a Greek NT
and therefore LXX is
simply the wrong choice!</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Please fix this
ASAP.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Dom, Please
also fix any bug in your
script that led to this
mistake!</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Best regards,</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">David</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
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<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">On Wednesday,
March 12th, 2025 at 5:52
PM, <a
href="mailto:domcox@crosswire.org" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">domcox@crosswire.org</a>
<a
href="mailto:domcox@crosswire.org" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">domcox@crosswire.org</a>
wrote:</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">This is to
announce that we have just
now uploaded StatResGNT<br>
in the CrossWire beta
repository for testing
purposes.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">If no raised
concern nor a quality
alert has been sent on the
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