<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I'm starting a new thread for this topic, which arose in the context of my beta testing the <b>StatResGNT</b> module.<br>
<br>This module makes use of both <u>double</u> and <u>single</u> <b>quotation marks</b>, and in some places the quotations are possibly <u>nested</u> to level 3.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">A conflict arises because most front-ends have a UI option for this <b>conf </b>element</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><blockquote style="border-left: 3px solid rgb(200, 200, 200); border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-right-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-bottom-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); padding-left: 10px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><div><span>GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents</span><br></div></blockquote>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">i.e. They can show/hide the accents.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">The problem is that <span><b>U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK</b> is one of the Unicode code-points covered by that filter!</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span>I think that this is because in some Greek texts, one of the diacritics could be placed <u>after</u> the vowel, rather than <u>over</u> the vowel.<br>I think it's this one, as described in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics#Coronis" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia</a>. <i>Please let me know if I'm on the right track with this</i>.</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span><div style="font-weight: bold; margin: 0.25em 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; display: flow-root; word-break: break-word; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.6; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(16, 20, 24); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><h3 style="margin:0px 0px 0.25em;display:inline;word-break:break-word">Coronis</h3><span style="user-select:none;font-size:small;font-weight:normal;margin-left:1em;margin-inline:1em 0px;line-height:0;unicode-bidi:isolate"><span style="margin-right: 0.25em; margin-inline: 0px 0.25em; color: rgb(84, 89, 93);">[</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek_diacritics&action=edit§ion=13" title="Edit section: Coronis" style="text-decoration: underline; background: none; border-radius: 2px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: nowrap; color: rgb(51, 102, 204);"><span>edit</span></a><span style="margin-left: 0.25em; margin-inline: 0.25em 0px; color: rgb(84, 89, 93);">]</span></span></div><figure style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1.3em 1.4em; display: table; text-align: center; border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 0; clear: right; float: right; min-width: 100px; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(32, 33, 34); background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_coronis_crasis.svg" style="text-decoration: underline; background: none; border-radius: 2px; overflow-wrap: break-word; display: block; color: rgb(51, 102, 204);"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Greek_coronis_crasis.svg/120px-Greek_coronis_crasis.svg.png" width="120" height="57" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Greek_coronis_crasis.svg/180px-Greek_coronis_crasis.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Greek_coronis_crasis.svg/240px-Greek_coronis_crasis.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="117" data-file-height="56" style="border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);vertical-align:middle;margin:3px;height:auto;max-width:calc(100% - 8px)"></a><figcaption style="display: table-caption; caption-side: bottom; line-height: 1.4em; word-break: break-word; text-align: start; padding: 0px 6px 6px; font-size: 12.376px; background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);">Coronis, marking crasis in the word<span> </span><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text"><span lang="grc">κἀγώ = καὶ ἐγώ</span></span></figcaption></figure><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(32, 33, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The<span> </span><b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronis_(diacritic)" title="Coronis (diacritic)" style="text-decoration: underline; background: none; border-radius: 2px; overflow-wrap: break-word; color: rgb(51, 102, 204);">coronis</a></b><span> </span>(<span title="Ancient Greek-language text"><span lang="grc">κορωνίς</span></span>,<span> </span><span title="Ancient Greek-language romanization"><i lang="grc-Latn">korōnís</i></span>, 'curved') marks a vowel contracted by<span> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crasis" title="Crasis" style="text-decoration: underline; background: none; border-radius: 2px; overflow-wrap: break-word; color: rgb(51, 102, 204);">crasis</a>. It was formerly an apostrophe placed after the contracted vowel, but is now placed over the vowel and is identical to the smooth breathing. Unlike the smooth breathing, it often occurs inside a word.</p><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span><br></span></div></span></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user">In that description, I assume that formerly, the digitisers would have chosen <b>U+2019</b> instead of the ASCII <b>apostrophe</b>.</div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user">So there's now a <u>conflict of interest</u> arising when a project decides to "<u>retrofit</u>" <b>speech marks</b> into an Ancient Greek text.<br>If I'm not mistaken, <b>StatResGNT</b> is the first such project ever to do so.</div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user">When the Greek accents are hidden by the front-end user, there is <u>no visible ending</u> to a level 2 quotation!!!</div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><i>What guidance should we give to Alan Bunning & his project team on this ?</i></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user">
Best regards,<br><br>David
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