<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the OSIS the equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki format !</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;">{{overline|ΘΥ}}</span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Thanks, Alan, for the explanation.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS <b>abbr</b> element for each instance. This would require that each type of <b><i>nomina sacrum</i></b> would then need to be retained as the abbreviation, and then expanded using the XML attribute, e.g.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: normal;"><abbr expansion="</span><span style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: normal;">Θεοῦ</span></span><span style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: normal;">"></span><span style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace;"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; text-decoration: overline; display: inline !important; font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: normal; color: rgb(32, 33, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">ΘΥ</span></span><span style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: normal;"></abbr></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="scrollbar-width:thin">Please refer to the <b style="scrollbar-width:thin">OSIS User Manual</b><span> </span>section 13.2 </span><br><span style="scrollbar-width:thin"></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to display the expansions!</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><i>The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore cc: to <b>sword-devel</b> in this reply.<br></i><br><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div>
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Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán
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<div>I received the following emails. I haven't looked into them
very much, but maybe you want to join the conversation.</div>
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Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37<br>
Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT<br>
To: pierre amadio <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:amadio.pierre@gmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amadio.pierre@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Kovács Zoltán <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:kovzol@gmail.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kovzol@gmail.com</a>>,
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<p>Hi Pierre,<br>
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That's a very plausible explanation!<br>
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Here are the relevant lines from my <b>word count</b>.</p>
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<div><span>Word Count</span>
<div><span>˚Θεέ 2</span></div>
<div><span>˚Θεοῦ 690</span></div>
<div><span>˚Θεόν 73</span></div>
<div><span>˚Θεός 68</span></div>
<div><span>˚Θεὸν 72</span></div>
<div><span>˚Θεὸς 239</span></div>
<div><span>˚Θεῷ 158</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κυρίου 231</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κυρίῳ 95</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κύριε 89</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κύριον 63</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κύριος 139</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κύριόν 1</span></div>
<div><span>˚Κύριός 10</span></div>
<div><span>˚Πνεύματι 59</span></div>
<div><span>˚Πνεύματος 79</span></div>
<div><span>˚Πνεύματός 5</span></div>
<div><span>˚Πνεῦμά 7</span></div>
<div><span>˚Πνεῦμα 99</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστέ 1</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστοῦ 252</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστόν 18</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστός 41</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστὸν 48</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστὸς 71</span></div>
<div><span>˚Χριστῷ 104</span></div>
<div><span>˚θεὸς 1</span></div>
<div><span>˚Ἰησοῦ 329</span></div>
<div><span>˚Ἰησοῦν 126</span></div>
<div><span>˚Ἰησοῦς 456</span></div>
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NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of <b><i>nomina
sacra</i></b>, then it ought to be described in the
conf file!<br>
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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:amadio.pierre@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amadio.pierre@gmail.com</a>
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<p>Hi there.</p>
<p>As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a
circular mark<br>
such as Ring Above (U+02DA).<br>
Looking at the source text, they seem to always
appears next to words such as<br>
<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt</a><br>
˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ,<br>
˚Πνεύματος<br>
˚Κυρίου</p>
<p>Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra
in manuscripts ?<br>
<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra</a></p>
<p>On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:kovzol@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kovzol@gmail.com</a>
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<p>Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to
you.<br>
Best, Zoltan</p>
<p>David Haslam <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>
ezt írta (időpont: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 13:33):</p>
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<p>Arising from the grapheme count, I have a further
technical query.</p>
<p>There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE.</p>
<p>I am wondering whether these would be better
being all replaced by U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE,
and if so, whether the mark should follow the
Greek letter rather than precede it.</p>
<p>NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents rules
is fairly limited.</p>
<p>Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for
viewing a Greek NT text?<br>
Might it be sensible to include such an element in
the .conf file?</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>David</p>
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<p>On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM, David
Haslam <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>
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<p>Hi Kovács,</p>
<p>Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a grapheme
count on the full Greek text with accents.<br>
i.e. After first stripping out the references from
the diatheke output. See inside attached 7-Zip
file.</p>
<p>There are two left/right count mismatches that
ought to be looked at.</p>
<p>2018 ‘ 483<br>
2019 ’ 484<br>
201C “ 1,904<br>
201D ” 1,907</p>
<p>cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK.</p>
<p>0028 ( 62<br>
0029 ) 62</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>David</p>
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<p>On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM, David
Haslam <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>
wrote:</p>
<p>This module has the wrong Versification.</p>
<p>It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply the
wrong choice!</p>
<p>Please fix this ASAP.</p>
<p>Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script that
led to this mistake!</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>David</p>
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<p>On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM, <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:domcox@crosswire.org" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">domcox@crosswire.org</a>
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wrote:</p>
<p>This is to announce that we have just now
uploaded StatResGNT<br>
in the CrossWire beta repository for testing
purposes.</p>
<p>If no raised concern nor a quality alert has been
sent on the list,<br>
StatResGNT will be published in a week.</p>
<p>This is an update.<br>
Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453)<br>
Version=1.3<br>
History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest release
(last database change: 2024-07-16)<br>
TextSource=<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt</a><br>
Versification=LXX</p>
<p>Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work.</p>
<p>yours</p>
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