<p dir="ltr">Hi David,</p>
<p dir="ltr">The usage of "acrostic" in this case is indeed semantically incorrect. </p>
<p dir="ltr">According to the OSIS specification, the correct markup for a psalm canonical title is <br>
<title type="psalm" canonical="true"><br>
and it is perfectly allowed to occur before the first verse.<br>
The crosswire wiki mentions that, in this case, sword requires an additional attribute subType="x-preverse" on the title tag, though I'm not sure what the purpose of this tag is and if it affects your issue with searching.</p>
<p dir="ltr">As a side note, in many bibles, as you say, some psalm titles span several verses, and therefore the OSIS spec allows <verse/> tags in the middle of a psalm title - though currently sword does not support it because osis2mod does not transform the <title> tag to milestoned form.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Arnaud</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 28 janv. 2025, 13:12, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Thanks John,<br><br><u>Aside</u>: I'm puzzled by the use of <b>type="acrostic"</b> when the 125 Psalms with canonical titles are nothing to do with acrostics, <i>per se</i>. Surely, that attribute should be reserved for the 22 stanza headings in Psalm 119 ?<br><br>There are Alternative Versifications in which the canonical Psalm titles are assigned to verse 1 (or in a few cases to verses 1 & 2) with subsequent verse numbers being offset by +1 (or +2).<br>I was not enquiring about modules that are for Bible versions like that.<br><br>In the KJV and many other modules, the Psalm titles proper are <u>before</u> the start of verse 1.</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div>
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On Tuesday, January 28th, 2025 at 11:17 AM, Johan Marais <<a href="mailto:johan.marais@messianic.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">johan.marais@messianic.co.za</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">David.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">In our translation I set Ps 6:1 as:</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">And a ‘normal’ search in Xiphos 4.2.1 returns 7 results:</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span>Regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span>Johan Marais</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: sword-devel <<a href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>> On Behalf Of David Haslam<br>
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Subject: [sword-devel] Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?</span></p>
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<p>I just tried to search for the word 'Neginoth' using Xiphos.</p>
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<p>There were no results found!</p>
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<p>This word occurs in the canonical Psalm title for Ps.6 and five other Psalms.</p>
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<p>"To the chief Musician on Neginoth upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David."</p>
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<p>In view of the fact that canonical Psalm titles are translated from the original Hebrew, ought it not to be within the scope of SWORD search?</p>
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<p>Or is this merely a shortcoming of Xiphos?</p>
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<p>cf. Xiphos Advanced Search dialog allows search scope to look in footnotes, but there's no such option for titles.</p>
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<p>Of course, many Bible versions have non-canonical headings throughout the module, yet I'm not concerned with such in asking this question here.</p>
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<p>Best regards,</p>
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<p>David</p>
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