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Thanks Troy, <br>
I'll take advantage of your reply to ask you what you think of
Arnaud's proposal. Do you think it would be useful for him to
develop his patch?<br>
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<p>Hey guys. I recently had to port the mapping work done in
VersificationMgr for use in the VMRCRE and had to fully
understand the scheme and syntax used in the good work done by
Костя on this a few years back.<br>
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It was a bit difficult for me to keep each component straight in
my mind initially so during my port, I created a class with
clear property names to hold each value, and an import format
which makes it clear what values do what. Here are the lines of
code for reference:<br>
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This is the VMRCRE equivelant to a canon.h file (MTNU: the
Masoretic OT + Nestle/Aland NT) and has mappings between the
MTNU and the LXXNU (LXX = Göttingen/Rahlfs) versifications under
the <mappings> section near the end:<br>
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<p>Port of VersificationMgr with class to hold the mappings
section:<br>
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href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/crosswire-java/-/blob/master/src/org/crosswire/sword/mgr/VersificationMgr.java#L233"
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<p>Hope this is helpful,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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2025 à 22:18, Fr Cyrille <<a
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<div> So I think that for versifications,
catholic catholic2 and LXX there is no mapping
(which would explain some of the problems I've
had displaying in parallel?).<br>
In the other v11n files I see an entry by
instance in vulg:<br>
unsigned char mappings_vulg[] = {<br>
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If someone can explain or give me a
documentation to understand how it works, and
if this is where the mapping takes place, I'd
like to work on it. Especially as it should be
possible to use Arnaud's work?<br>
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<div>You're correct Cyrille, the mapping data is in
this char array defined with the versifications in
the canon_*.h files.</div>
<div>This array is injected (for the versifications
which have one) and decoded within
versificationmgr.cpp.</div>
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<div>The format of this char array is really obscure
though, and it's completely different from the
format of mappings used in jsword (which is a lot
clearer and a lot easier to edit and maintain).<br>
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<div>From what I understand in the code ("// parse
mappings" section of the loadFromSBook method in
versificationmgr.cpp) and the canon_vulg.h example
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SWORD is built for speed. The format is a C string (characters
followed by a null). SWORD’s format is meant to be obscure to
force the use of SWORD and JSword as the mechanism to read
SWORD modules.</div>
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<div>JSword is meant to be in lock step with the formats of
SWORD. WRT the mapping files, these were developed
independently and at the same time. I deemed it too hard at
the time to bring JSword back into alignment w SWORD’s format.
JSword’s format is human readable, external, easily
maintainable and is read when needed.</div>
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<div>The array starts with a sequence of book names,
which are the books present in this bible and
absent from KJV.</div>
<div>Each such name is a sequence of letters
followed by a null character serving as delimiter.<br>
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<div>In canon_vulg, thoses are the <br>
'E', 'p', 'J', 'e', 'r', 0,<br>
'P', 'r', 'A', 'z', 'a', 'r', 0,<br>
'S', 'u', 's', 0,<br>
'B', 'e', 'l', 0,</div>
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<div>2. Then, you have an additional null character
indicating the end of that first section - the
rest of the array is encoded completely
differently.</div>
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<div>3. The rest of the array is meant to be split
in sequences of 7 numbers, each such 7-number
sequence corresponding to a mapping rule.<br>
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<div>For example, this is a mapping rule :</div>
<div>21, 4, 9, 10, 4, 8, 0,</div>
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<div>First digit indicates the book (index in the
sequence of books, starting at 1). In vulg, book
21 is Psalms.</div>
<div>The next 3 digits indicate the destination of
the mapping. "4,9,10" corresponds to chapter 4,
verses 9 to 10.<br>
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<div>The final 3 digits are the source of the
mapping. "4,8,0" corresponds to chapter 4, verse 8
alone.</div>
<div>So this rule I used as example denotes that
verses Ps 4:9-10 of KJV are mapped to Ps 4:8 in
Vulg.<br>
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<div>Which corresponds indeed to one rule that is
present in the jsword mapping file.</div>
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<div>I guess I could try to build a converter to
export the jsword mapping properties files into
this format, so that we could indeed add the
Catholic and Catholic2 mappings that I spent hours
building for the AndBible jsword fork.</div>
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That would be greatly appreciated!</div>
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<div>But going forward, for maintaining
versifications, it would be a lot better to have a
central way of defining all our versifications and
all their mappings in an easily readable and
editable format (maybe the one defined by the
Copenhagen Alliance, cf <a
href="https://github.com/Copenhagen-Alliance/versification-specification/blob/master/versification-mappings/json-schema/versification_schema.json"
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), serving as a source of truth for both sword and
jsword. Because even just looking at this Vulg
versifications, the mapping have vastly diverged
between sword and jsword...</div>
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<div>IIRC, the mapping of deuterocanonical material I don’t
think was ever completed.</div>
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<div>Even if we don't go as far as implementing the
full modular versification system that I would
like to build, if at the very least we could have
a central, easy-to-maintain place to manage all
our versifications, and then could easily export
them to both sword and jsword, that would be a
huge step forward.</div>
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I think Chris Little developed an external format that would
build the canon_*.h files. I don’t remember if there was
something like this that was developed for mappings.</div>
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<div>Arnaud</div>
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