<html><head></head><body> <div dir="auto">Worth noting that CrossWire is not the only server hosting SWORD modules!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Refer to the relevant wiki page. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David</div><div><br></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 09:11, Peter von Kaehne <<a class="" href="mailto:On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 09:11, Peter von Kaehne <<a href=">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"> <div dir="ltr"><div>
</div><div><div dir="ltr">You can ask for parts via the study application . I do not think anyone has yet decided to build an app around that. But I see no reason why not. It probably needs dusting off and some further work to make more universally useful, but it is uo and running and always available. </div>
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<div> </div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display:inline-block;width:98%"><div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> sword-devel <sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org> on behalf of Aaron Rainbolt <arraybolt3@gmail.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 13, 2024 5:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel@crosswire.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [sword-devel] Creating a "SWORD-over-network" protocol for remote SWORD repo access?<div> </div></font></div>As it stands, SWORD users face some disadvantages when accessing SWORD
<br>resources - they have to be downloaded in their entirety, installed
<br>onto the end user's system, and then stay there for as long as the
<br>user wishes to access them. While it is possible and even easy to copy
<br>modules from one system to another in theory, the system that views
<br>the modules must still *have* the modules in order to view them.
<br>
<br>Since SWORD already is basically a universal Bible-related data access
<br>system, it seems to me like it could be useful to take the concept one
<br>step further - allowing access to SWORD modules over the network,
<br>where a viewing device must only request the part of a module it wants
<br>to view, and simply discards it when it's done with it.
<br>
<br>Some advantages of this over what SWORD already does:
<br>
<br>* The device used for viewing no longer has to be the device used for
<br>storing the modules. Individuals can stand up a "SWORD server" and
<br>then access the modules from any network-capable SWORD client on any
<br>device.
<br>* The device used for module storage can be located on the Internet,
<br>allowing individuals to access a potentially large library of modules
<br>without installation.
<br>* Assuming a properly secured, encrypted connection can be established
<br>and the server is not obvious as a SWORD server, individuals in
<br>persecuted countries could potentially access SWORD modules over the
<br>Internet, allowing them to access the Bible without leaving a trace on
<br>their devices.
<br>* Organizations with permission to redistribute copyrighted texts
<br>could provide those texts via a SWORD server, allowing them to be
<br>accessed by network-capable SWORD clients (i.e., this could
<br>potentially allow people to legally access texts such as the ESV and
<br>NIV in their favorite SWORD client rather than being forced to resort
<br>to clunky websites, proprietary software, or piracy). Server-side,
<br>open-source DRM measures could be enforced to make downloading entire
<br>modules for offline use more difficult, providing some level of
<br>peace-of-mind to copyright owners.
<br>
<br>Advantages this would have over existing "access the Bible online" solutions:
<br>
<br>* It would provide a standardized interface for accessing the Bible
<br>and Bible-related resources over the Internet, rather than every
<br>project coming up with its own storage conventions and network
<br>protocols.
<br>* People could theoretically use almost any SWORD client to access the
<br>modules, allowing access to the Bible using a native desktop or mobile
<br>application, rather than having to resort to a web browser, clunky
<br>"cross-platform" (read: doesn't work quite right anywhere) app, or a
<br>tracker-laden mess like YouVersion.
<br>* Since the SWORD server itself would essentially be a SWORD client
<br>that provided access to its modules over the network, one SWORD server
<br>could daisy-chain to another one, thus acting as a proxy. This way
<br>small, non-suspicious websites could provide access to major SWORD
<br>servers via a proxy, making it easier to help individuals in
<br>persecuted situations to access the Bible.
<br>* Given the above proxying mechanism, blocking access to SWORD servers
<br>could become very difficult, for much the same reasons why blocking
<br>access to Matrix chat is very difficult. (In a world with unlimited
<br>time and development resources, a full federation system could be
<br>implemented so that anyone could access any module that anyone else
<br>hosted... but that's almost without question overkill and impractical.
<br>Just proxying would be cheap to implement and powerful in use.)
<br>* Anyone could self-host a SWORD server and provide themselves, their
<br>family, their community, or even the world easier access to the Bible
<br>and Bible-related resources.
<br>* Advanced features like fast Lucene search could be provided
<br>server-side, giving a much faster search experience than almost any
<br>modern Web-based Bible application I've used.
<br>* If used alongside a feature like BibleSync, it could be a powerful
<br>tool for churches and Bible studies to use. People could simply
<br>connect to the church's SWORD server and enable BibleSync, then be
<br>able to follow along perfectly with everyone else, with access to the
<br>same resources that their pastor, study leader, etc. is actively
<br>using. No prep work needed (beyond having the proper app installed and
<br>knowing how to point it to the right server).
<br>
<br>In the event this idea is actually worth pursuing, it seems to me like
<br>there would be four things needed to make it a reality.
<br>
<br>* A SWORD network protocol specification. This would probably be the
<br>hardest thing to get right since it has to be gotten right the first
<br>time and then only incrementally updated in the future in a
<br>backwards-compatible manner for best results.
<br>* An actual SWORD server implementation. Once the specification
<br>exists, writing this should theoretically be easy.
<br>* Server access support in the SWORD library itself. This would enable
<br>existing SWORD clients to adopt network support with little effort.
<br>* Adoption of the new feature by SWORD frontends. This of course is up
<br>to (and at the discretion of) each SWORD frontend developer, but if
<br>the SWORD library made accessing network resources act almost
<br>identically to accessing local resources, it would hopefully be easy
<br>to take advantage of the feature, and thus it would hopefully gain
<br>traction.
<br>
<br>So there's my brain-dump of all the reasons I think this is worth
<br>doing and how I think it should be done :P Let me know what you think
<br>and if you have any advice or feedback. This whole thing popped into
<br>my head tonight and I just wanted to share it to see if it's worth
<br>pursuing, or if maybe something similar to this was tried already in
<br>the past.
<br>
<br>Thanks for reading my wall of text. God bless.
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