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<p>Hello Fr Cyrille (& all),</p>
<p>It looks to me like you already have a valid copyright and CC
BY-SA license on your Sainte Bible néo-Crampon Libre, with the
copyright owned by Fraternité de Tibériade. (Earlier drafts were
listed as copyrighted by the Crosswire Bible Society, but that is
probably not a problem, because the license is the same.) To
copyright a work, you don't actually need to do anything, even
provide a copyright notice. In practice, however, a copyright
notice is important in the process of trying to defend a
copyright, so it should be done. To secure a Creative Commons
license, all you have to do is state clearly that the work is
released under whichever specific license you chose. I do that
automatically in all formats on eBible.org when I have the
copyright and permissions fields filled out in Haiola.<br>
</p>
<p>Because of your clear copyright and permission notice, and
because your work is independent and was published online before
theirs was published, they cannot <b>legally</b> claim to own the
copyright on your work. Of course, they could try to make an
illegal claim. Such things are common, since there are not usually
significant consequences in the law for making false claims of
copyright ownership. However, it is extremely unlikely that anyone
could get away with trying to enforce a false claim of copyright.
Besides, lawyers probably wouldn't see a good way to get paid by
suing someone who has taken a vow of poverty. ;-)<br>
</p>
<p>To make sure you are covered, legally, the main thing is to keep
the copyright and license notice on your published works, as they
are in the Sword module and in the other formats distributed from
eBible.org. Technically, the copyright notice is not required, but
it is helpful and makes defending the copyright and open access
license much easier.</p>
<p>Although they have been working on it for 20 years, if it was
just published, then it is probably safe to say that you were not
copying their work, because you would not have seen it. There is
independent evidence of your work going on earlier at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220811202015/https://ebible.org/francl/">https://web.archive.org/web/20220811202015/https://ebible.org/francl/</a>.</p>
<p>I don't see how inserting invisible characters in the text would
be helpful in most scenarios. It is easy enough to check for
direct copying by comparing the text. Even the ancient diff
program can check for identical texts easily enough.</p>
<p>Does this help?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/8/24 03:01, Fr Cyrille wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:b3ab2baa-f31b-4aea-9a0e-ac54ca725481@tiberiade.be">Hello,
<br>
I'm wondering how to secure with a CC license a work updating a
bible in the public domain, without someone being able to claim
that it belongs to them?
<br>
<br>
I'm asking because I'm doing this work on the Crampon, and a
French publisher has just published a revised Crampon. They've
been working on it for 20 years, and I'm afraid that the day my
work is ready (it is already), they'll claim it as their own?
<br>
<br>
Do I need to do anything special to make sure no one puts it under
a restrictive license?
<br>
<br>
I've also thought of inserting invisible characters in the text at
specific points, but isn't that excessive?
<br>
<br>
Thanks for your advises.
<br>
<br>
Br Cyrille
<br>
<br>
<br>
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