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<p>Hi Cyrille,</p>
<p>I understand where you're coming from in terms of user needs.<br>
<br>
Merging is something that would technically not be that easy due
to different technologies ... it would rather mean re-developing
features, or re-developing the app entirely.<br>
And that is a lot of work, that one would first needs to commit to
do (the author ... and potentially their family!!).</p>
<p>A pre-requisite would be alignment about goals / objectives /
purpose. I believe we currently address slightly different goals /
objectives / purpose with the existing set of apps.<br>
<br>
Maybe, one day, there will be a "window of opportunity" that
enables such a joint development.<br>
The thing with open source is, that not everyone spends the same
amount of time on it during the same time period.<br>
One person may have more time now, another person more time two
years from now ...<br>
Also, people often stick to the technology they are used to from
their professional life because then they do not have to repeat
the learning curve from scratch.<br>
<br>
What I can tell you is that right now I wouldn't have the time for
re-developing an app or re-starting a learning curve on different
technology.<br>
I did have the time a few years ago when I started Ezra Bible App
as an Electron app. And I'm ok to keep maintaining it. But
re-developing is another story in terms of time and effort needed
for that.<br>
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<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/28/23 11:57 AM, Fr Cyrille wrote:<br>
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lHello Friends,<br>
I may be saying something heresy, but I'll try anyway. To begin
with, I'd like to thank Troy and Tuomas for their beautiful apps,
as well as Tobias, for all their hard work.<br>
Personally, I use Bishop and Andbible, but I intend to test Esra
as well.<br>
That's what I'm thinking about. It's a lot of work to code, and
there aren't many of you. Wouldn't it be useful to merge the
projects?<br>
Here's my case in point. I use Anbible for almost everything,
except for what bishop offers that Andbible doesn't have:<br>
<ul>
<li>Daily devotional</li>
<li>the parallel passage of the Gospels with the modules of
Eusebius of Caesarea, a really good tool.</li>
<li> And even if I don't use it, but access to the original
manuscripts is a great tool too.</li>
</ul>
So there are three things I think Andbible lacks to be perfect,
which I've just described.<br>
So would it be possible, rather than creating a new program, to
simply (it may not be simple at all, pardon me for being a
philistine) integrate these strengths of bishop into Andbible, and
thus have an ultra-complete app?<br>
<br>
Just a question/suggestion...<br>
<br>
Br Cyrille<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 28/10/2023 à 10:08, Peter von
Kaehne a écrit :<br>
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As you are at it… I never reported it but Bishop crashes
reliably during all word searches on iPhones. At least on mine.
Both Bishop and the Capuchinhos version.
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<div dir="auto">Hi Michael. I've not had any reports of
that nor seen it. Could you give me more info. I can
pull up an emulator to match your setup and try to
reproduce.</div>
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<p>The biggest thing I would like is more stability.</p>
<p>Last time I used Bishop on my Android phone, it
crashed every time I tried to tap the pull-down list
to add a second in the parallel list.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/27/23 09:09, Troy
A. Griffitts wrote:<br>
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<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>I just wanted to post here this random list of
things I intend to update for the next version of
Bishop. If anyone is interested in helping or
giving ideas, I would love collaborators.<br>
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<p><b style="font-weight:normal;"
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style="font-weight:normal;"
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style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;padding-inline-start:48px;">
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Space between verse number and first character of text for better copy and paste</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary view [Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily devotional, gen book view, etc.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Option to migrate data files to different locations.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Option to add augment folders from other apps.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">See if there is a way to select down a column for selection of multiple verses when in parallel view.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks, Google drive?</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR functionality.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus Latina, etc.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Some visualization for RB</span></p></li>
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<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: 24pt;" aria-level="2"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max witnesses cell (John 18?)</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: 24pt;" aria-level="2"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column. Find a nice grid control.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: 24pt;" aria-level="2"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: 24pt;" aria-level="2"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button to update RB data.</span></p></li>
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<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Google Maps integration for manuscripts.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Simple indexing tool.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">VMR Login credentials.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Update to best Hebrew and Greek lexicons.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Add "show NT usage" to lexicon entry.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">See if there is a Perseus option to facilitate a "show extra Biblical usage."</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">See if we can delay load image thumbnails on demand/scroll.</span></p></li>
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left: -6pt;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Language assist, 3 panel. Add bottom panel with current verse of 2nd selected Bible and sync word highlighting with dictionary scroll and primary Bible.</span></p></li>
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