<div dir="ltr"><div>Some answers:</div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">What’s the reason for being so selective?</blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I believe we chose the current list of Bibles based on two perspectives:<br><br>1. From the list of Public Domain Bibles that can be utilized without any constraints.<br>2. With the exception of those that were part of our old API v1 and were reader-requested.<br><br>- Ou Vertaling - Afrikaans (which is my mother tongue)<br>- Smith and Van Dyke - Arabic.<br>- Breton New Testament- Breton.<br>- NCV Simplified - Chinese.<br>- NCV Traditional - Chinese.<br>- Czech CEP - Czech.<br>- Pyha Raamattu (1992) - Finnish.<br>- Louis Segond (1910) - French.<br>- Lithuanian - Lithuanian.<br>- Cornilescu - Romanian.<br>- Victor Zhuromsky NT - Russian.<br>- Reina Valera (1909) - Spanish.<br>- Thai from kjv - Thai.<br>- Turkish - Turkish.<br><br>So, in essence, we selected all Public Domain Bibles plus a few more that our readers requested.<br><br>At present, we are employing only a few Bibles based on the permissions granted to Crosswire. The bulk of the chosen Bibles are in the public domain or under licenses that essentially permit non-commercial usage.<br><br>I'm eager to incorporate more, but only once we're confident that the system we've established, with its HARD-LINKED connection to the Crosswire Modules, genuinely covers us under the permissions granted to Crosswire. My aim is to produce a system that meets all specifications and fully honors all copyright and associated constraints. This is the reason it's taken me years to finalize this—planning and investing the time to create a robust and well-supported system was a significant challenge.<br></div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">A further matter arising is how you handle DistributionLicense for each module?</blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Since we're currently using primarily Public Domain Bibles and a few that have "permissions granted to Crosswire," I'm eager to understand how to manage this aspect of the projects. I have the capability to restrict access, and I can either remove them from the API (or web app) or adhere to any guidelines necessary to meet expectations.<br></div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">One thing that needs clarifying is whether you sync modules only to the main CrossWire repository, or whether you also make use of the other module sources listed in the CrossWire Master Repositories List?</blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>This is the current complete list of Bibles we are using: <a href="https://git.vdm.dev/getBible/v2_builder/src/branch/staging/conf/CrosswireModulesMap.json" target="_blank">https://git.vdm.dev/getBible/v2_builder/src/branch/staging/conf/CrosswireModulesMap.json</a> (<a href="https://api.getbible.net/v2/translations.json" target="_blank">https://api.getbible.net/v2/translations.json</a>)<br>As previously mentioned, we're highly selective at the moment, as we seek guidance moving forward. Depending on what's permissible and appropriate, we're prepared to either expand or reduce the getBible API.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px"><font size="2" color="#666666"><i><br></i></font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px"><font size="2" color="#666666"><i>Kind regards</i></font></font></div></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px"><font size="2" color="#666666"><i>Llewellyn</i></font></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 12:38 AM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div> <div dir="auto">Further question:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Some SWORD modules in the CrossWire repository are not listed in the getBible.net website.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The Anderson NT is just one example among many.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What’s the reason for being so selective?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David<u></u><u></u></div><div><br></div>On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 20:01, Llewellyn van der Merwe <<a href="mailto:On+Fri,+Aug+11,+2023+at+20:01,+Llewellyn+van+der+Merwe+%3C%3Ca+href=" target="_blank">llewellyn@vdm.io</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="auto">Hi David</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for your email, I would like to think that since the text is exactly the same as the modules and kept in that state it would be looking on any screen the same as Xiphos or PocketSword. So I would say getBible is also a Crosswire project (format) like the above two mentioned projects.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am not at my desk right now, but will checkout the links you send me and answer the further questions in the next few days.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just a side note for now, each translation’s complete details (copyright notices) can be viewed on each page under the (i) menu icon.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If any more official notices is needed to show the Crosswire relationship more than is already set in place, we will gladly add it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards</div><div dir="auto">Llewellyn</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 8:13 PM, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Hi Llewellyn, <br><br>Further to my initial reply, I have just created a wiki page for <b style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">getBible</b> and linked it from here.<br><br><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/Main_Page#Front-end_Bible_study_applications" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wiki.crosswire.org/Main_Page#Front-end_Bible_study_applications</a><br></span><br>One thing that needs clarifying is whether you sync <span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">modules<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></span>only to the main CrossWire repository, or whether you also make use of the other module sources listed in the CrossWire <b style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Master Repositories List</b>? See</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/Official_and_Affiliated_Module_Repositories" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wiki.crosswire.org/Official_and_Affiliated_Module_Repositories</a></span><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">A further matter arising is how you handle <b style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">DistributionLicense</b> for each module?</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">cf. Some Bibles are copyright but the owner has granted permission for CrossWire to distribute them <u style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">in SWORD format</u>. It's not completely clear to an outsider looking at <b style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">getBible</b> for the first time whether the sync'd Bibles are still in SWORD format, or are in a <i style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">derived</i> format.<br><br>If the latter, then it's essential that you speak with Troy A Griffitts and discuss the details. <br><br>Best regards,<br><br>David Haslam</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Greetings, in the wonderful name of the Lord Jesus.<div><br></div><div>I spoke to the crosswire community (<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:refdoc@crosswire.org" target="_blank">refdoc@crosswire.org</a>) in 2019, and at the time had to take down our API of the Bible since it was not kept in sync with the Corsswire/Sword modules.</div><div><br></div><div>Now this has been done, and it has been stable for three years.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is our API documentation page: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://git.vdm.dev/getBible/v2#v2-getbible-api" target="_blank">https://git.vdm.dev/getBible/v2#v2-getbible-api</a></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the build log: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://github.com/getbible/v2_builder/actions" target="_blank">https://github.com/getbible/v2_builder/actions</a> (that sync the API with the crosswire modules once a month. Each build takes about three hours.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is the documentation on how this works: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://github.com/getbible/v2_builder#guidelines" target="_blank">https://github.com/getbible/v2_builder#guidelines</a></div><div><br></div><div>We have now based on this API built a Joomla component: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://git.vdm.dev/getBible/joomla-component" target="_blank">https://git.vdm.dev/getBible/joomla-component</a></div><div><br></div><div>Which can be used on any website, but here we run the same component on our own website: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://getbible.net/" target="_blank">https://getbible.net/</a></div><div><br></div><div>So I would ask that you add getBible <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://getbible.net/" target="_blank">https://getbible.net/</a>> as a <b>Web-based Software </b>to this page <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://www.crosswire.org/applications/" target="_blank">https://www.crosswire.org/applications/</a></div><div><br></div><div>We have a detailed explanation in the component on how the sync process works, if you open <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://getbible.net/" target="_blank">https://getbible.net/</a> you will see a hash value beneath the scripture, with a question mark, just open the link to see the full explanation. This new system will keep all websites that use this system in-sync with the crosswire modules, which is a massive achievement for Crosswire and the whole online Bible world. </div><div><br></div><div>Please let me know if you have any further questions, your servant in Chirst Jesus.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)" size="2"><i style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></i></font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)" size="2"><i style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Kind regards</i></font></font><div><span><font style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">Llewellyn van der Merwe</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><b style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Vast Development Method</b></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(204,204,204)" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:llewellyn@vdm.io" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">llewellyn@vdm.io</a></font></i></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(204,204,204)" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="http://vdm.io/" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://vdm.io</a></font></i></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2">+264 (81) 248 7770</font></i></div><div><i><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)" size="1" face="verdana, sans-serif">Senior Software Development Manager</font></i><br></div></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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