<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes, that looks like the type of thing. Although that is for Lucene (Java). I don't know the status of CLucene's implementation of that nor of Xapian's. But that would be the proper place for such processing to occur. If those libraries do not have one, interested parties could submit one. They could probably develop it inside of the SWORD library to be sure it's doing what they want it to do (I believe those filters are designed to be pluggable by the calling application) before submitting it to those projects for inclusion.</div><div><br></div><div>--Greg<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:12 PM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div> <div dir="auto">Thanks, Greg.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I just came across this</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://lucene.apache.org/core/3_2_0/api/contrib-analyzers/org/apache/lucene/analysis/th/ThaiWordFilter.html" dir="auto" target="_blank">https://lucene.apache.org/core/3_2_0/api/contrib-analyzers/org/apache/lucene/analysis/th/ThaiWordFilter.html</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is that the kind of thing you were thinking of?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David<u></u><u></u></div><div><br></div> <div id="m_3891278540368212446protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from Proton Mail for iOS</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 17:51, Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:On+Mon,+Apr+17,+2023+at+17:51,+Greg+Hellings+%3C%3Ca+href=" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"><div>I don't believe you're going to get that sort of feature directly in the engine's simple search.</div><div><br></div><div>However, if you're using a build of the library that utilizes CLucene or Xapian, then that should be the function of those libraries. They are supposed to be able to handle all of that type of functionality if the language has a corresponding contribution to that library. It might be better to check in with them.</div><div><br></div><div>--Greg<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:46 AM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div> <div dir="auto">Unlike Hebrew and Arabic, etc, none of the names of the Thai <span dir="auto">Unicode </span>characters contain the word FINAL. <u></u><u></u><span>Likewise for Myanmar letters.</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A possible way forward might be to run one of the several Word Segmentation programs on the text of the ThaiKJV.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Examples: KuCut, DeepCut, AttaCut</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This should insert a Unicode zero width non-joiner (ZWNJ) as a word separator.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">NB. The module would have to be updated using the segmented source text.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Visually, the resulting text would display the same as the original, but the module would be amenable to indexing for word searches.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A difficulty that might then arise is how the front-end user might enter the search query for an exact phrase search type (containing more than one word). Other search types (all words, any word) might be OK as is.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Aside: The KuCut method developed in 2004 was originally trained using the text of the ThaKJV.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div>Regards,<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David</div><div><br></div> <div id="m_3891278540368212446m_-6310528066662867627protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from Proton Mail for iOS</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 17:16, Peter Von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:On+Mon,+Apr+17,+2023+at+17:16,+Peter+Von+Kaehne+%3C%3Ca+href=" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"> <div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px"><div>Does Thai Burmese etc etc use end forms for letters? if so, are these encoded as such?</div>
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<div style="margin:0px 0px 10px"><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 17. April 2023 um 16:47 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "David Haslam" <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>><br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> [sword-devel] Languages without a space between words</div>
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<div>How (if at all) does the SWORD API generate a search index for a module that is for a language without a space between words?</div>
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<pre style="letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;box-sizing:border-box;margin:15px 0px;border:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);line-height:19px;overflow:auto;padding:6px 10px"><code style="box-sizing:border-box">Please consider how best to generate a useful search index for modules that are
for Bible translations in languages that have no spaces between words.
Example: CrossWire module ThaiKJV
See
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Writing_systems_without_word_boundaries" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Writing_systems_without_word_boundaries</a>
Has this ever been considered before.</code></pre>
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