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<body>Dear Tobias,<br><br>Please be sure to note my comment to you below in this thread. It is likely the cause of your rendering issues, while other apps have no problems.<br><br>In brief, it says that I haven't seen anywhere that you tell SWORD what markup and encoding you want from the engine. If this is the case you will get whatever the modules are encoded / marked up as, which might be various things.<br><br>Hope this helps,<br><br>Troy<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On January 22, 2023 12:03:22 PM MST, "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe@crosswire.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Sorry for not jumping in on this thread more quickly.</p>
<p>Please remember, SWORD has 4 transformation points, each moving
from the module source (as described in the .conf file) to the
client's request:</p>
<p>RenderFilters - markup, e.g., GBF, ThML, OSIS -> XHTML<br>
</p>
<p>StripFilters - prep before searching<br>
</p>
<p>OptionFilters - turning on an off markup in the text stream based
on user options, e.g., Strongs Number, Words of Christ in Red,
etc.<br>
</p>
<p>EncodingFilters - e.g., 8859 - > UTF-8</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Module team: be sure the module has the correct Encoding value in
the .conf file (or the default)</p>
<p>Tobias, be sure you are creating your SWMgr with the correct
MarkupFilterMgr to do the transformation you desire, e.g., see:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/examples/cmdline/outrender.cpp">https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/examples/cmdline/outrender.cpp</a></p>
<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>Troy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/22/23 10:39, Fr Cyrille wrote:<br>
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HI David,<br>
If you send me the file, I can convert it quickly in osis. I
script it from imp to usfm and the with u2o.py.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 22/01/2023 à 16:54, David Haslam a
écrit :<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Tobias,</div>
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<div dir="auto">The problem is that CrossWire no longer accepts
module submissions that use IMP format for the build process.</div>
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We’d need to have a script (or equivalent TextPipe filter) to
convert IMP to OSIS (whether directly or indirectly through some
other intermediate file format).
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<div dir="auto">I’m not currently in a practical position to
work on that kind of task.</div>
<div dir="auto">Is anyone else up to it?<caret></caret></div>
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<div dir="auto">Best regards,<br>
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<div dir="auto">David</div>
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 15:39, Tobias Klein <<a href="mailto:contact@tklein.info" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">contact@tklein.info</a>>
wrote:
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<p>The FinPR module that David sent me works fine without
rendering issues! (see screenshot below)<br>
</p>
<p>It would be good to upgrade the module in the repo
accordingly.<br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
</p>
<p><img src="cid:part1.vYS1WII0.eryF0oRZ@crosswire.org" alt="" src-original-pm-cid="imap://fr%2Ecyrille%40tiberiade%2Ebe@ssl0.ovh.net:993/fetch%3EUID%3E.INBOX%3E8824?header=quotebody&part=1.1.2.2&filename=inccpcpbnhmlapdi.png" class=""></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/22/23 8:31 AM, David
Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Kristóf.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="San Francisco",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
none; display: inline !important; float: none;" dir="auto">The rendering problem could have been fixed
a decade ago!!!</span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Checking through my email archives
yesterday, I discovered that I had rebuilt the FinPR
module exactly 10 years ago! That rebuild <span style="color: var(--text-color); background:
var(--bg-color);" dir="auto">used mod2imp and imp2vs
and included </span><span style="color:
var(--text-color); background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto">a fix to the text encoding implemented on
the IMP text</span><span style="color:
var(--text-color); background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto"> file). The message was sent to the modules
address on 2013-01-21 but presumably never progressed
by Chris Little who was then still supposed to be
responsible for module releases and updates. He went
permanently AWOL from CrossWire around that time. </span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="color: var(--text-color);
background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto">Back then we had not narrowed the policy
for submitted source text to be OSIS XML only. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I wrote privately to Tobias last night,
forwarding the email of 10 years ago complete with both
attachments. He will examine those today.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Aside: I also replaced <…> by {…}
where these had wrapped the ch:vs references that
recorded av11n in the original upstream source. In 2012,
there had been no suitable av11n available in SWORD but
which we do have more recently.</div>
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<div dir="auto">mod2osis should not be used, as has
already been noted.</div>
A round trip with mod2osis and osis2mod is not lossless,
unlike one <span style="color: var(--text-color);
background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto">with mod2imp
and imp2vs.</span>
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<div dir="auto">Best regards,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">David</div>
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 23:15, Kristof Szabo <<a href="mailto:kristof.szabo@web.de" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">kristof.szabo@web.de</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I managed to get Ezra running (it was
some libicu70 mess), and yes, the accented
characters in this module are broken (as other
modules accented characters are OK; I assume it is
not a font issue). I tried the conf file change, but
it didn't work either.
<div><br>
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<div>The mitigation was to rebuild the module,
mod2osis leaves some garbage in the OSIS, but that
would be easy to clean, anyway osis2mod is
possible with this garbage left in and tada we
have a proper accents.</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>As the module was updated last only 3,5 yrs
ago I assume the maintainer is still active, ie.
they can be reached.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Or I can have a look too, the challenge is,
that such a module rebuild can open pandora's
box, if I run some tests (<a href="https://github.com/krisek/sword-test" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/krisek/sword-test</a>)
or David checks them, then for sure there will
be some issues. I'm happy to fix some of them,
but I definitely do not speak Finnish, so I'm
not sure this would be a responsible action. If
Dom gives me the go I can fix syntax &
submit, but I don't want to end up in the rabbit
hole :) Best would be to reach out to the
original maintainer.</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>k-</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 21,
2023 at 8:26 PM Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Is Ezra properly setting encoding
on the content it renders? Is it maybe setting a
font that doesn't have the proper code points?
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<div dir="auto">--Greg</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan
21, 2023, 13:12 Tobias Klein <<a href="mailto:contact@tklein.info" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">contact@tklein.info</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Kristof, David,</p>
<p>Adding Encoding=UTF-8 to the module conf
file ~/.sword/mods.d/finpr.conf does not
solve my issue.</p>
<p>The text still looks the same as before
...</p>
<p>What else could I do to further debug
this?<br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
</p>
<div>On 1/21/23 5:18 PM, Kristof Szabo
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Thomas,</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
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<div>I suppose the problem is that
finpr.conf contains no encoding
information (check the Hun* modules
for reference), and if there is
nothing specified Latin-1 is the
default. mod2osis (shouldn't be used
!! :)) shows that the module is in
UTF-8, so there is a misalignment.</div>
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<div><a href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files#:~:text=Plaintext-,Encoding,-UTF%2D8%0AUTF" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files#:~:text=Plaintext-,Encoding,-UTF%2D8%0AUTF</a><br>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Kristof</div>
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Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 4:49 PM David
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<div>Hi Thomas,</div>
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</div>
<div>What about other Finnish
modules?</div>
eg. FinPR92, FinRK, FinSTLK2017<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Presumably you already tested
(eg) German modules and found
that umlauts and eszett are both
rendered aright?</div>
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<div>Btw. FinPR renders aright in
PocketSword (iOS/iPadOS).</div>
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</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 15:25,
Tobias Klein <<a href="mailto:contact@tklein.info" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">contact@tklein.info</a>>
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<p>Hi,<br>
<br>
</p>
<p>When retrieving the text of
the FinPR module I am getting
some rendering issues with the
Finnish Umlauts. This is based
on a user's problem report.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
Romans 5:8 returns like this
in node-sword-interface /
Ezra:<br>
</p>
<p>Mutta Jumala osoittaa
rakkautensa meit� kohtaan
siin�, ett� Kristus, kun me
viel� olimme syntisi�, kuoli
meid�n edest�mme.</p>
<p><br>
While it should like like this
(rendered text copied from
Xiphos):</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Mutta
Jumala osoittaa rakkautensa
meitä kohtaan siinä, että
Kristus, kun me vielä olimme
syntisiä, kuoli meidän
edestämme.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">This
occurs both on Linux and
macOS (have not tested on
Windows yet).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Any
pointers what could be the
root cause? I generally have
not observed rendering
issues with other modules.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Best
regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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