<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 18, 2023, 13:30 Fr Cyrille <<a href="mailto:fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Griffitts a écrit :<br>
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Guys who prefer GitLab, I am sorry. No university research
project, no commercial job has ever asked me to use GitLab. </blockquote>
The french wikipedia says about : The software is used by several
large IT companies, including IBM, Sony, the Jülich Research Centre,
NASA, Alibaba, Oracle, Invincea, O'Reilly Media, Leibniz
Rechenzentrum, CERN4,5,6, European XFEL, the GNOME Foundation,
Boeing, Autodata, SpaceX7 , Symbio and Altares...<br>
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have all asked me use GitHub. From a purely popular choice and to
prevent all of us from having to create yet another account (I am
sure most everyone already has a GitHub account) and learn yet
another tool, can't we just settle on GitHub. Would it make anyone
extremely unhappy? GitLab is not my preferred choice.<br>
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I wouldn't be unhappy, but when I have a choice between open or
proprietary software I always ask myself if the small inconvenience
I would have to use open is worth it or not, if I have a
surmountable inconvenience I favour the inconvenience. I don't know
in our case, because I don't have the skills, and I trust you.
However I wonder if for what we write as source code gitlab is not
just enough?<br>
For the creation of an account, I think most of us already have an
account, no?<br>
</div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unfortunately, for Gitlab, the code owners feature is behind a paid subscription. In that very important way it does not (freely) provide what Troy needs to administrate the engine development. It works great for modules because they are owned by a person and each in separate repositories. This, Gitlab does not provide the features needed unless Troy is willing to pay.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Another feature that Gitlab hides behind payment is multiple reviewers per PR. I don't know if that's a hard requirement at this time, but it could be if a proposed change touched multiple areas of the engine code.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Although I prefer to leverage the FOSS option where available, in this case it comes down to Troy deciding whether it's worth the financial cost for those features on Gitlab or working in GitHub where those are gratis. That cost would come to $29 per user, per month. And then we lose the network effect of allowing people to easily fork the repository and send a PR unless he's paying for the SaaS version. There is a model for FOSS projects to gain access to the premium features we need, if you apply and are accepted. <a href="https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/projects/">https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/projects/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--Greg</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
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06:41 Peter von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" rel="noreferrer
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There is plenty more but this gives a decent
summary. GitLab allows private repos which I think
are a really useful thing. I think it should also
be easier to integrate our own GitLab stuff or
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<div dir="auto">This comparison is quite dated (for
instance, GitHub definitely has CI/CD integrated nowadays,
and GitLab is by no means buggy and slow), but I also
would support GitLab over GitHub as our definitive
location simply on the principle of it being FOSS instead
of closed source hosting.</div>
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<div dir="auto">It does have an identical Code owners
feature to GitHub with the same syntax and location. I'm
not sure if it's available in the self hosted/free
versions or if it is one of their premium features. I'm
getting conflicting information on that.</div>
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<div dir="auto">It does support automatic mirroring, so it
would be easy for us to self host the official repository
but still allow automated mirrors on GitHub and the public
GitLab for ease of contribution by others.</div>
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<div>We aren’t a democracy but as far as it goes - I
welcome the move to Git so, so gladly and I vote
for moving towards GitLab as there is more active
development of us already</div>
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11:20, Matěj Cepl <<a href="mailto:mcepl@cepl.eu" rel="noreferrer
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<div dir="ltr"><span>On 2023-03-18, 09:55 GMT,
Fr Cyrille wrote:</span><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span>I am very happy
with this progress in your thinking about
git. I just </span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>reiterate my
preference for gitlab, where as Peter has
already pointed </span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>out we now have
all our modules. It would be consistent to
add the sword </span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>sources there as
well.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>@David I don't
particularly use github for my personal
projects which </span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>are all under
gitlab.</span><br>
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<span>+1</span><br>
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