<div dir="ltr">I apologize, I notice some of the file was cut. What I sent gives the idea. If it's helpful for me to send everything then I will do that.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>--<br>Timmy Braun<br>Cell: +501-615-4531</span></font></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:44 PM Timmy <<a href="mailto:tim.bze@gmail.com">tim.bze@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Also, if there's code that should not be available to the public it would have to be put in a separate private repository with access granted just to the person(s) or team(s) that should have access.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>--<br>Timmy Braun<br>Cell: +501-615-4531</span></font></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:42 PM Timmy <<a href="mailto:tim.bze@gmail.com" target="_blank">tim.bze@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">From my research and some help from ChatGPT, I think the below text would be the replacement for the access file (for GitHub CODEOWNERS).<br><br>Note that I've simplified the Makefile.am, <a href="http://configure.ac" target="_blank">configure.ac</a>, CMakeLists.txt files to one line. This means all files with that name would be included (saying in case that's not the intention).<div><br></div><div>The "Teams" sword-prelim, sword-cmake, sword-release, sword-make would have to be created in the GitHub organization.</div><div><br></div><div>A branch protection rule would have to be setup in GitHub for the master branch which would require at least "Require a pull request before merging" and "Require review from Code Owners". Admins would always have access to merge PRs unless also checking "Do not allow bypassing the above settings". In such a case no one would be able to merge to master without PR.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't claim to be "the expert" but take the info for what it's worth.</div><div><br></div><div># Specific access rules for refdoc<br>/trunk/man/ @refdoc<br>/trunk/src/modules/filters/ @refdoc<br>/trunk/include/teilatex.h @refdoc<br>/trunk/include/osislatex.h @refdoc<br>/trunk/include/gbflatex.h @refdoc<br>/trunk/include/thmllatex.h @refdoc<br>/trunk/src/mgr/markupfiltmgr.cpp @refdoc<br><br># Access rules for sword-prelim group<br>/trunk/locales.d/ @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/bindings/ @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/examples/ @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/utilities/ @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/tests/ @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/scripts/ @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/ChangeLog @sword-prelim<br>/trunk/lib/vcppmake/ @sword-prelim<br><br># Access rules for sword-cmake group<br>/trunk/cmake/ @sword-cmake<br><br># Access rules for sword-release group<br>/branches/ @sword-release<br>/tags/ @sword-release<br><br># Access rules for all files with the name Makefile.am<br>**/Makefile.am @sword-make<br><br># Access rules for all files with the name <a href="http://configure.ac" target="_blank">configure.ac</a><br>**/<a href="http://configure.ac" target="_blank">configure.ac</a> @sword-make<br><br># Access rules for all files with the name CMakeLists.txt<br>**/CMakeLists.txt @sword-cmake<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">--<br>Timmy Braun<br>Cell: +501-615-4531</span></font></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 2:40 PM Peter von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Just one suggestion - a huge amount of our module work happens already on GitLab rather than GitHub. I think the reasons were to do with unfriendly policy changes of GitHub - but I am not entirely sure anymore. <div><br></div><div>Cyrille, Dominique or David might know. </div><div><br></div><div>We already run a GitLab instance on our CrossWire server, so we do know it in terms of admin etc.  I do not think GitHub is per se the more relevant place over GitLab in terms of exposure or ease of use. </div><div><br></div><div>Might GitLab be the better choice to open up shop in? </div><div><br></div><div>Peter<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 17 Mar 2023, at 20:11, Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Current owners are myself, DM, Karl, and Doug Campos. I sent Troy an invite to it.</div><div><br></div><div>--Greg<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:09 PM Peter von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I think I own the CrossWire organization though not sure anymore. I will look into it this weekend and approve you to the highest level if I can do so<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 17 Mar 2023, at 19:28, Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div>Troy,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know we've discussed the merge issue in the past. In order to help point in the right direction, a couple of questions:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do you still envision self hosting the repository as you have SVN and using GitHub to mirror, or do you anticipate self hosting a repository that is just an insurance policy against GitHub becoming unfriendly in the future? Most popular self hosting Git supports both push and pull to GitHub repositories, but the one you anticipate being the source will determine the recommendations and conversion path.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the Git world, the feature you're looking at seems to be known as Code Owners. It's a relatively newer feature. Here is GitHub documentation about their implementation. <a href="Https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/about-code-owners" target="_blank">Https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/about-code-owners</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you anticipate doing most of the work on a self hosted solution and pushing GitHub as the mirror, I can look for their technique.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'll look into the Crosswire organization on GitHub to see if I have admin rights there to address #1.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div>--Greg<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 14:09 Troy A. Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" target="_blank">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <p>I don't want this to turn into a debate.<br>
      <br>
      I agree, we need to move source control to git.</p>
    <p>I even mostly agree we should do most of our dev work on github
      for the visibility to draw other developers.</p>
    <p>To move forward with this:</p>
    <p>1) I would actually need access to the github 'crosswire'
      organization, which I currently don't have.</p>
    <p>2) I am happy to migrate our 27 repos there (yes, I was also
      surprised we have 27, but even these old ones would be nice to
      have on github for posterity).<br>
      3) After #2, I would love for Github experts to help me find a
      solution that effectively grant elevated access to individuals for
      merging PRs into our master repository without my approval FOR
      CERTAIN PARTS OF THE REPO they own or are trusted to approve.</p>
    <p>This #3 item had been the primary element holding us back from
      moving from SVN to git.  If you are unaware, SVN has a very easy
      way to elevate permissions for accounts for parts of the
      repository.  I don't want to have to approve all changes!  I trust
      our pumpkin holders to care for their parts of the repository.</p>
    <p>We've discussed, in the past, submodules for handle this, but
      they do not handle this well.  e.g., I want to grant Greg Hellings
      full write access to merge any PR which updates any of our cmake
      scripts in all folders everywhere.  I don't know anything about
      cmake and Greg is an expert.  I want him to be able to manage that
      build system without my oversight.  I trust him.  I do not want to
      grant Greg merge access for code that has anything to do with our
      C++ engine.  He might be a great C++ programmer, but he hasn't
      expressed he wants that access or ever submitted C++ code for me
      to review and merge myself, so I want to protect Greg from
      accidentally merging in someone's PR which includes C++ engine
      code.</p>
    <p>In SVN this is easy.  Attached is our SVN access file.  Help me
      translate this workflow to Github.  There must be some way to
      restrict merges based on the merging user and files modified in
      the PR.  Or at least require a review by certain users bases on
      the files modified in the PR.</p>
    <p>Help me :)</p>
    <p>Troy<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 3/17/23 11:24, Greg Hellings wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="auto">Indeed. It's not a principled stand that I'm
        refusing to get Subversion going. It's simply that it's too much
        work that I haven't bothered and don't foresee doing so anytime
        soon.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">And, with no setup to automatically test the
          scripts in all the environments they must support, it's not
          likely others are willing to commit this on my behalf.<br>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">--Greg</div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 09:42
          Peter von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">I think you misunderstood Greg. 
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>There is a long campaign and strong feeling to have the
              project on Git but there is no agreement or movement to
              that. And it seems Greg is pausing his contributions until
              that matter is resolved. </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Peter<br>
              <br>
              <div dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please forgive
                misspellings and weird “corrections”</div>
              <div dir="ltr"><br>
                <blockquote type="cite">On 12 Mar 2023, at 15:51, ZdPo
                  Ster <<a href="mailto:zdposter@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">zdposter@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>I am sorry, but I did not get the point of your
                      reply.</div>
                    <div>I do not use subversion - I use git-svn as
                      proposed several months ago on this forum. But
                      current cmake configuration expects everybody to
                      use subversion, which is wrong.<br>
                    </div>
                    <div>These patches improve cmake build:</div>
                    <div>
                      <ul>
                        <li> that will work also with git-svn <br>
                        </li>
                        <li>MSVC build</li>
                        <li>fix depreciated</li>
                      </ul>
                      <div>AFAIK it should cause no harm for other
                        combinations, just improve current state.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Zdenko<br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 9 Mar 2023
                      at 23:18, Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>I've never bothered to get Subversion setup
                          on my local machine. Remembering the setup,
                          plus my credentials, and how to use it is more
                          labor than I've been willing to spend on this
                          effort. If, in the future, I overcome that
                          inertia then I'll happily test and apply this
                          patch.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>--Greg<br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb
                          25, 2023 at 5:34 AM ZdPo Ster <<a href="mailto:zdposter@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">zdposter@gmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>Any update on this (after 3.5 months)?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Zdenko<br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 26
                              Nov 2022 at 21:53, Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                              <div dir="auto">Thanks. I am not privy to
                                the patches email inbox, so this mailing
                                list is the way to reach me for CMake
                                things. I'll review these when I have
                                the opportunity.
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto">--Greg</div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 13:46 Peter von
                                  Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                          <div>How to suggest
                                            improvements to the sword
                                            project?</div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    You did it the right way. It just is
                                    a bit on/off as a project. GHellings
                                    is the cmake pumpkin holder as far
                                    as I know. I bcc him on a different
                                    email address. 
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Peter<br>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div dir="ltr">
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>BR,</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Zdenko<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">----------
                                                    Forwarded message
                                                    ---------<br>
                                                    From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">ZdPo
                                                      Ster</b> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:zdposter@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">zdposter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                                    Date: Sun, 6 Nov
                                                    2022 at 22:22<br>
                                                    Subject: cmake
                                                    patches<br>
                                                    To: <<a href="mailto:patches@crosswire.org" rel="noreferrer
                                                      noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">patches@crosswire.org</a>><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div>Hello,</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>please find 3
                                                      few patches
                                                      related to cmake
                                                      build (tested
                                                      on windows with
                                                      MSVC 2019):</div>
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                                                      <ol>
                                                        <li>cmake_fix_deprecation.patch
                                                          - cmake
                                                          version 3.23.2
                                                          produce
                                                          depreciation
                                                          warning for
                                                          old minimum
                                                          version, co
                                                          IMO it is time
                                                          to increase
                                                          expected cmake
                                                          version</li>
                                                        <li>cmake_fix_msvc.patch
                                                          - there is no
                                                          "/O3" options
                                                          in current
                                                          MSVC[1]</li>
                                                        <li>cmake_git_svn.patch
                                                          - I use git
                                                          svn for
                                                          accessing
                                                          code, but
                                                          cmake produce
                                                          error because
                                                          of missing svn
                                                          executable. He
                                                          is patch that
                                                          fixed it +
                                                          code for
                                                          detecting svn
                                                          revision
                                                          (MYSVN_WC_REVISION)
                                                          from git</li>
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                                                      <div>[1] <a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/reference/o-options-optimize-code?view=msvc-160" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/reference/o-options-optimize-code?view=msvc-160</a></div>
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