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HI David,<br>
If you send me the file, I can convert it quickly in osis. I script
it from imp to usfm and the with u2o.py.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 22/01/2023 à 16:54, David Haslam a
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Tobias,</div>
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<div dir="auto">The problem is that CrossWire no longer accepts
module submissions that use IMP format for the build process.</div>
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We’d need to have a script (or equivalent TextPipe filter) to
convert IMP to OSIS (whether directly or indirectly through some
other intermediate file format).
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<div dir="auto">I’m not currently in a practical position to work
on that kind of task.</div>
<div dir="auto">Is anyone else up to it?<caret></caret></div>
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<div dir="auto">Best regards,<br>
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<div dir="auto">David</div>
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 15:39, Tobias Klein <<a
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<p>The FinPR module that David sent me works fine without
rendering issues! (see screenshot below)<br>
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<p>It would be good to upgrade the module in the repo
accordingly.<br>
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<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/22/23 8:31 AM, David Haslam
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Kristóf.</div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="San Francisco", Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;
display: inline !important; float: none;" dir="auto">The
rendering problem could have been fixed a decade ago!!!</span><br>
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<div dir="auto">Checking through my email archives
yesterday, I discovered that I had rebuilt the FinPR
module exactly 10 years ago! That rebuild <span
style="color: var(--text-color); background:
var(--bg-color);" dir="auto">used mod2imp and imp2vs and
included </span><span style="color: var(--text-color);
background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto">a fix to the
text encoding implemented on the IMP text</span><span
style="color: var(--text-color); background:
var(--bg-color);" dir="auto"> file). The message was
sent to the modules address on 2013-01-21 but presumably
never progressed by Chris Little who was then still
supposed to be responsible for module releases and
updates. He went permanently AWOL from CrossWire around
that time. </span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="color: var(--text-color);
background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto">Back then we had not narrowed the policy for
submitted source text to be OSIS XML only. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I wrote privately to Tobias last night,
forwarding the email of 10 years ago complete with both
attachments. He will examine those today.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Aside: I also replaced <…> by {…}
where these had wrapped the ch:vs references that recorded
av11n in the original upstream source. In 2012, there had
been no suitable av11n available in SWORD but which we do
have more recently.</div>
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<div dir="auto">mod2osis should not be used, as has already
been noted.</div>
A round trip with mod2osis and osis2mod is not lossless,
unlike one <span style="color: var(--text-color);
background: var(--bg-color);" dir="auto">with mod2imp and
imp2vs.</span>
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<div dir="auto">Best regards,</div>
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<div dir="auto">David</div>
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 23:15, Kristof Szabo <<a
href="mailto:kristof.szabo@web.de"
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<div dir="ltr">I managed to get Ezra running (it was
some libicu70 mess), and yes, the accented characters
in this module are broken (as other modules accented
characters are OK; I assume it is not a font issue). I
tried the conf file change, but it didn't work either.
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<div>The mitigation was to rebuild the module,
mod2osis leaves some garbage in the OSIS, but that
would be easy to clean, anyway osis2mod is possible
with this garbage left in and tada we have a proper
accents.</div>
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<div>As the module was updated last only 3,5 yrs ago
I assume the maintainer is still active, ie. they
can be reached.</div>
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<div>Or I can have a look too, the challenge is,
that such a module rebuild can open pandora's box,
if I run some tests (<a
href="https://github.com/krisek/sword-test"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/krisek/sword-test</a>)
or David checks them, then for sure there will be
some issues. I'm happy to fix some of them, but I
definitely do not speak Finnish, so I'm not sure
this would be a responsible action. If Dom gives
me the go I can fix syntax & submit, but I
don't want to end up in the rabbit hole :) Best
would be to reach out to the original maintainer.</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>k-</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 21, 2023
at 8:26 PM Greg Hellings <<a
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<div dir="auto">Is Ezra properly setting encoding on
the content it renders? Is it maybe setting a font
that doesn't have the proper code points?
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<div dir="auto">--Greg</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 21,
2023, 13:12 Tobias Klein <<a
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<p>Hi Kristof, David,</p>
<p>Adding Encoding=UTF-8 to the module conf
file ~/.sword/mods.d/finpr.conf does not
solve my issue.</p>
<p>The text still looks the same as before ...</p>
<p>What else could I do to further debug this?<br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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<div>On 1/21/23 5:18 PM, Kristof Szabo wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Thomas,</div>
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<div>I suppose the problem is that
finpr.conf contains no encoding
information (check the Hun* modules
for reference), and if there is
nothing specified Latin-1 is the
default. mod2osis (shouldn't be used
!! :)) shows that the module is in
UTF-8, so there is a misalignment.</div>
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<div><a
href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files#:~:text=Plaintext-,Encoding,-UTF%2D8%0AUTF"
rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Kristof</div>
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<div>Hi Thomas,</div>
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</div>
<div>What about other Finnish
modules?</div>
eg. FinPR92, FinRK, FinSTLK2017<br>
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<div>Presumably you already tested
(eg) German modules and found that
umlauts and eszett are both
rendered aright?</div>
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<div>Btw. FinPR renders aright in
PocketSword (iOS/iPadOS).</div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 15:25,
Tobias Klein <<a
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<p>Hi,<br>
<br>
</p>
<p>When retrieving the text of the
FinPR module I am getting some
rendering issues with the
Finnish Umlauts. This is based
on a user's problem report.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
Romans 5:8 returns like this in
node-sword-interface / Ezra:<br>
</p>
<p>Mutta Jumala osoittaa
rakkautensa meit� kohtaan siin�,
ett� Kristus, kun me viel�
olimme syntisi�, kuoli meid�n
edest�mme.</p>
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While it should like like this
(rendered text copied from
Xiphos):</p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Mutta
Jumala osoittaa rakkautensa
meitä kohtaan siinä, että
Kristus, kun me vielä olimme
syntisiä, kuoli meidän
edestämme.</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">This
occurs both on Linux and macOS
(have not tested on Windows
yet).</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Any
pointers what could be the
root cause? I generally have
not observed rendering issues
with other modules.</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:none;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Best
regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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