<html><head></head><body> <div>Aside: The KJV at WikiSource would only be relevant if someone were wanting to create a text only KJV module. The CrossWire OSIS source text is a long way further down the road than plain text. There’s therefore no reason to keep mentioning it. </div><div><br></div><div>It’s also a derived <caret></caret>digital work - not the actual reference printed hard copy of the 1789 Oxford (Blayney) Edition.</div><div><br></div><div>At best it might be used to help locate any residual textual differences that might yet be undiscovered in our KJV module, but that would involve doing a comparison with the plain text that could be easily exported from our module, and then checking any such diff locations in the printed facsimile copy that DM Smith possesses.</div><div><br></div><div>Nobody in their right mind is proposing to start with the one at WikiSource and insert all the feature rich OSIS XML markup that we already have in the existing source text.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div> <div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from Proton Mail for iOS</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 13:22, Fr Cyrille <<a href="mailto:fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be" class="">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite">
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!important">A copy of this reply is sent<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">bcc</b><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;">Dear Fr Cyrille,</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://gitlab.com" title="gitlab.com">gitlab.com</a> is simply the <u>wrong
place</u> to host our <b>KJV</b> source text!</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;">If necessary, it
should be hosted <b>in-house</b> under <a href="https://git.crosswire.org" title="git.crosswire.org">git.crosswire.org</a> such that only
CrossWire volunteers have access.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;"><b>Important</b>:
The KJV module is an <u>exception</u> to our usual practice of
taking source text from a publicly accessible website or third
party supplier. It was always specially developed <b>in-house</b>
from the early days of CrossWire. Much of its development
history is documented in the developer wiki at <span><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/CrossWire_KJV" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.crosswire.org/CrossWire_KJV</a> and
related pages.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;">CrossWire
volunteer <b>DM Smith</b> has long been the prime mover in this
process.</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;">AFAIK, he still
carries the main responsibility for future <b>KJV</b> module
releases.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;">NB. The related </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"><b style="line-height: normal;">KJVA</b></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"> module should be
maintained in parallel with any changes envisaged for the </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"><b style="line-height: normal;">KJV</b></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"> module. ie.
Special provision was made in 2014 to use two iterations of </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"><b style="line-height: normal;">osis2mod</b></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"> such that the </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important; font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"><i style="line-height: normal;">Deuterocanonical</i></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline
!important"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;">books were
appended to the </span><span style="font-size: 9pt;
line-height: normal;"><i style="line-height: normal;">Protocanonical</i></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"> books using the
</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"><b style="line-height: normal;">-a</b></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal;"> option in the
second command line. This implies that the process needs to be
an exception to a semiautomatic module build script that
DomCox now uses for OSIS modules. I helped DM in the run up to
when version <b>2.10</b> was released. At that time, we had
not been making use of any git type environment to keep track
of changes for either the KJV or KJVA module.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;"><u>Aside</u>:
The emergency release of <b>KJV</b> version <b>2.10.2</b> was
an exception to the previous process. This was an <i>ad hoc</i>
action that Troy deemed necessary because of the nature of the
issue being fixed.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;">I could add
further observations, but this will need to suffice for now.</div>
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Thank you David do put this information on the list so that everyone
can understand the problem. Personally I don't agree with this
restrictive view of KJV treatment but I had submitted to your
decision. Because I don't bring the same importance to this very
particular copyright claimed by the British Crown. The presence of
KJV on wikisource is a proof of this.<br>
However, what I see is that we are still at square one, i.e. nobody
can do anything to improve the module. That's why I gave up, it's
this report of a new error that revives the discussion.<br>
For me if we don't give the tools to the Crosswire community to
improve the module it's just doomed to stay as it is with its
errors.<br>
We could put the text on the right git, it would still be necessary
that you allow other users to work on your text, and that the
modification made in the emergency by Troy is validated in the
current version before making other corrections. The corrections are
extremely simple almost anyone can do it. The facsimile is on
wikisource.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:KJV_1769_Oxford_Edition,_vol._1.djvu">https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:KJV_1769_Oxford_Edition,_vol._1.djvu</a><br>
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Best regards, <br>
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Br Cyrille<br>
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On Monday, January 16th, 2023 at 11:51 AM, Fr Cyrille
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 12/01/2023 à 21:44, Matěj
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">Unfortunately, the work on KJV is currently at a standstill, and bugs
are piling up on the tracker. I wanted to offer my help but I didn't get
any answer. This is a problem that should be treated seriously,
considering the importance of the KJV.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">Well, it would probably help if
<a href="https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv/" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv/</a> actually
contained sources.
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I tried to do this, but since some people say there are
copyrights issues on the KJV, although the full text is on
wikisource which has a very strict copyrights enforcement
policy, I gave up the project.<br>
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My attempt: <a href="https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow
noopener">https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv</a><br>
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Matěj
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