<html><head></head><body> <div>It would be better to use the latest upstream XML files because these are the definitive source for what is also made available in the other formats including HTML, text and PDF. Some of those secondary derived formats may not have all the features of the work. </div><div><br></div><div>I never contemplated adding Strong’s numbers to my experimental module back in March 2020.</div><div><br></div><div>To prepare my module, I converted the 39 XML files (concatenated in book order) to IMP format by means of a bespoke TextPipe filter. I did not consider using USFM as an intermediate format.</div><div><br></div><div>The module was built using imp2vs but without normalising to NFC.</div><div><br></div><div>My IMP file included such OSIS elements as were required to implement the features and filters, but building from IMP (as an interim expedient) meant that I could not check XML syntax and conformity to the OSIS standard.</div><div>Even so, I was pretty sure that there were no coding errors per se.</div><div><br></div>Aside: My OSIS elements include some new ones with user-defined attributes for encoding various types of Hebrew punctuation. <div><br></div><div>My last eXperimental module retained Morph<caret></caret>Segmentation (using XML seg elements), but as Morpheme Segmentation is evidently copyright by the Groves Center (according to Kimball) subsequent XML files on his website no longer have this feature. Very few SWORD front-ends (if any) provide any support to display this Feature. <span style="color: var(--text-color); background: var(--bg-color);">It would require an enhancement to the SWORD engine to </span><span style="color: var(--text-color); background: var(--bg-color);">display alternate segments in (say) a different colour. I doubt whether even STEP Bible (based on JSword) does this. </span></div><div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div> <div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from Proton Mail for iOS</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 16:09, Fr Cyrille <<a href="mailto:fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be" class="">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite">
Hi David,<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/08/2022 à 16:49, David Haslam a
écrit :<br>
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<div>None of those suggested options would be my
preference.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>We should create a new module called UXLC which
Obsoletes=WLC </div>
<div><span style="caret- font-family: "San Francisco",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-
-webkit-text-size-adjust: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float:
none;">UXLC denotes Unicode XML Leningrad Codex.</span><br>
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<div><span style="caret- font-family: "San Francisco",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-
-webkit-text-size-adjust: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float:
none;"><br>
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Do we agree about this file:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tanach.us/Pages/XMLFiles.html">http://www.tanach.us/Pages/XMLFiles.html</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tanach.us/Books/Tanach.xml.zip">http://www.tanach.us/Books/Tanach.xml.zip</a> ? I prefer to work with
the txt file and convert it to usfm.<br>
Do you have a way to add the strong numbers?<br>
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<div>It should be derived from the most up to date XML files at
tanach.us</div>
<div>Those XML files are TEI and would need to be converted to
OSIS.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>NB. We would thereby lose Morph Segmentation (which
is copyright by the Groves Center).</div>
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OK.<br>
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<div>IMHO, we should no longer include the notes in the Torah
based on what is now the discredited Documentary Hypothesis.
cf. The scholarly work by Kenneth Kitchen and Paul Lawrence
demonstrates that the DH is totally untenable. CrossWire should
not be giving it any further credibility by continuing
to have these codes in our module. <br>
</div>
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I agree with this.<br>
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</div>
<div>NB. Special care must be taken for how we encode the Ketiv /
Qere words in OSIS.</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Can you give more information.<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There are other technical improvements we could &
should implement.</div>
<div>One outstanding bug in the WLC module is that there’s a
spurious space after each MAQAF.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This reply is not intended to be exhaustive.</div>
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OK, we can do like this. I'll wait first Michael opinion about his
module, and the version of his module.<br>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>David</div>
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 15:27, Fr Cyrille <<a href="mailto:fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>>
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<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"> Hi friends,<br>
I'm ready to help. We have three option, first the easy option.
Removing the module, and keep it to Michael in the ebible repo.
Michael (like us) has the strongs number in the module. Second
option. I can make an update with the Michael's module, and
adding the missing notes in the Michael's text and we can
rebuild a new module. Or the third option. I add the notes (or
Michael if you have an easy way to do that) and I send the file
to Michael. <br>
I prefer the third option, because of what we spoke on the
sword-devel list about duplicated modules.<br>
<br>
If nobody react about this. In one week I will begin the work.<br>
<br>
Br Cyrille<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/08/2022 à 15:22, David Haslam
a écrit :<br>
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<div>My experimental module WLCX2 was derived from WLC 4.20 of
21 Feb 2016.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The upstream source has probably changed again since
then. I haven’t looked. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 14:18, Fr Cyrille <<a href="mailto:fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>>
wrote:
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/08/2022 à 15:15, David
Haslam a écrit :<br>
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<div>I was doing something experimental in March 2020 but
the activity was overtaken by my wife’s terminal illness
and I have not yet revisited the project. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I can’t yet give a date for when I might resume this
work. <br>
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Can I help you? I guess you have the source, maybe I can
have a look? Can you create a git repo?<br>
<br>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 12:59, Fr Cyrille <<a href="mailto:fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fr.cyrille@tiberiade.be</a>>
wrote:
<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"> @David,<br>
If I remember well your were working on this module, do
you have any update?<br>
<br>
Thank you!<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/08/2022 à 13:54, Fr
Cyrille a écrit :<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Hi Dom,<br>
Can you rebuild this module without NFC?<br>
It should help for the <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/MOD-287">https://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/MOD-287</a>
issue.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/08/2022 à 11:49, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated
moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:domcox@crosswire.org">domcox@crosswire.org</a> a
écrit :<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded WLC
in the CrossWire (main) repository.
## Language:
hbo
## Description:
Westminster Leningrad Codex
## Category:
Biblical Text
## Version:
This is an update. Version: 1.9.1
## What's new:
Change Lang to Hebrew Ancient
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