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<p>Maybe Daniel Hughes can help? I think he is the original author
of the SWORD C# bindings, which were added in April 2014.<br>
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<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/16/21 8:02 PM, Tobias Klein wrote:<br>
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<p style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family:
sans-serif; margin: 8pt 0;">Am 16. Juni 2021 13:00:00
schrieb "Jeff Becker" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com"><jbecker@fiveviews.com></a>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tobias,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
sorry for the confusion that I’m having (and seem
to be sharing). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
get a clean build on the sword-build-win32
sword\bindings\csharp\Sword.csproj which includes
the NativeMethods class. That class is made up of
DLLIMPORT calls to a ‘libsword.dll’. However,
when I step through the code it won’t load the dll
specified even when I change the name or relative
path. I have checked the dllName (DLLNAME const)
and the reference points to a copy of the
sword.dll. That leads me to believe that it’s
actually a call to a dependency that’s causing the
problem. PEStudio has pointed me to various
missing dependencies. I’m not sure of the
algorithm that it uses to determine those
dependencies as its focus is actually on viral
threat assessment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s
currently showing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">libbz2.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">liblzma.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">libcurl.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">icuin65<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">icuuc65.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">kernel32.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">msvcp140.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">vcruntime140.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-heap-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-string-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-stdio-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-convert-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-filesystem-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-environment-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-time-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
first five are part of sword. The next three
aren’t a problem. But the ‘api-ms-win-crt-…’ have
been rolled up into libraries. I’ve tried several
different methods to install them but all I get
are the new version. This is a new computer and
new installation of Windows 10. I’m guessing that
this would run if I had installed the earlier
version of the Redistributable (VS2015, VS2017)
these would have installed. But the currently
available version doesn’t include these dlls. It
only includes the new libraries which replace
those listed here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve
tried to verify the existence of the entry points
but I’m certain that it would give a different
error than the ‘cannot load’ error that always
comes up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
this be what’s been giving me problems?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Again,
thank you so much for the help,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tobias Klein [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:contact@tklein.info">mailto:contact@tklein.info</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 14, 2021 11:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Becker<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I do not have another/later set of SWORD dlls.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What do you mean when you say "<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">NativeMethods class"?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I am not sure right
now where the name of the SWORD.dll is configured.
Potentially in the SWORD CMake configuration.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is what is done
for building SWORD (once all the dependencies are
available):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#354DA6">cmake -B build\sword -G
"Visual Studio 16 2019" -A Win32 ^<br>
-DCMAKE_WINDOWS_EXPORT_ALL_SYMBOLS=TRUE ^<br>
-DBZIP2_LIBRARY=%cd%\%2\libbz2.lib ^<br>
-DBZIP2_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\bzip2 ^<br>
-DXZ_LIBRARY=%cd%\%2\liblzma.lib ^<br>
-DXZ_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\xz\src\liblzma\api ^<br>
-DICU_ROOT=%cd%\icu\icu4c ^<br>
-DICU_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\icu\icu4c\include ^<br>
-DCURL_LIBRARY=%cd%\%2\libcurl_imp.lib ^<br>
-DCURL_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\curl\include ^<br>
sword<br>
<br>
devenv build\sword\libsword.sln /Build Debug
/Project sword<br>
dir build\sword\Debug\<br>
copy build\sword\Debug\sword.dll %2\<br>
copy build\sword\Debug\sword.lib %2\<br>
copy build\sword\Debug\sword.pdb %2\</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Are the "missing
DLLs" actually causing any issue with a linked
binary? When I link node-sword-interface with the
sword.dll on Windows I do not face such issues -
neither during build, nor during runtime. But
that's a different configuration/usecase I
suppose.<br>
<br>
Did you try already try to link the sword dll into
some sample application?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Moving forward, the only way I can help is if you
submit your Visual Studio project (of that sample
application) - can you share it, can you put it on
GitHub? If I do not have access to your project
configuration I'll not be able to
debug/reproduce/understand.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<br>
Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/14/21 11:39 AM, Jeff
Becker wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
did try the dlls from the link you gave (it’s
also in another email thread). That was when I
ran into the missing Windows dlls problem
(msvcr80.dll and msvcp80.dll as indicated by an
assessment tool). Those dlls only install with
the VS2005 C++ Redistribution Kit (which is no
longer available on Microsoft.com) or with
various MS Office and other 32 bit MS
applications (which I don’t have installed on my
Windows 10 machine). Also, the NativeMethods
class in the sword-build-win32 looks for
‘libsword’ (.dll) not sword.dll. The latter
(sword.dll) is in the release artifacts on Git.
I don’t know the difference between the two
dlls. I also noticed that the NativeMethods
class uses the Windows CE calling convention
rather than the standard Winapi. I don’t know
if that has a effect on all of this. Or maybe
I’m just not understanding the way that the
Sword dlls are organized.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All
of that was the reason I tried to get a compile
but had some difficulties.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
can try to find a reliable version of the MS
dlls from a third party but I’m not very
trusting when comes to those sites. I’ve checked
a Windows 7 machine that I have here but those
dlls were not on it. (Note that you have to
look directly into the folders for them because
search sometimes overlook hidden and system
files.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is
it possible that you have a later set of Sword
dlls that import a later version of the Windows
dlls (mscrt100.dll, etc.)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry
to be a burden. Thank you for the help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tobias Klein [<a
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:contact@tklein.info</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Becker<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The released DLLs are not
in the Git repo, but rather uploaded as
release artifacts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">See <a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tobias<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:8.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Am
13. Juni 2021 09:08:25 schrieb "Jeff
Becker" <a
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com></a>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe
the problem is VS2017 or Windows 10.
A compiled dll should be backward
compatible to VS2017 from VS2019 (in
most cases) because it relies mostly
on Windows compatibility once a
library is compiled.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
tried geting the Dlls from the Github
clone but didn’t find them. I dug
around and got dlls but they didn’t
load. The CSSword project compiled in
C# but the dll but wouldn’t load when
called in my project (missing
libsword.dll). I checked dependencies
and they were looking for dlls that
weren’t in the build and weren’t in
Windows 10, VS2017 (C#,C++,VB). Two
of the dlls that came up were
msvcr80.dll and msvcp80.dll which I
could only find in a VS 2005 C++
Redistribution installer. The
system32 folder had later versions and
an earlier version (msvcp40.dll, I
think).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ll
go back and try it again. Maybe I
missed something.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
for your response,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
Tobias Klein [<a
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:contact@tklein.info</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 12,
2021 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum; Jeff Becker<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff, I'll
have a look asap. What I can say
is that with the current scripts
used this all automatically built
via GitHub actions using the
MSVS2019 tool chain and CMake
without any trouble. Since there
are DLLs available (both SWORD and
its dependencies) I still don't
fully understand your need for a
rebuild. Did you try the DLLs and
that didn't work? What didn't work
exactly?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Am 11. Juni
2021 09:31:10 schrieb "Jeff
Becker" <a
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com></a>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid
gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
5.0pt;margin-left:4.5pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I'm
impressed with all that I see
in this project. The more that
I learn about the SWORD
Project, as I dig into the
code and all that has been
done, the more impressed I
become. I think this is an
impressive work and everyone
involved should be honored as
part of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">But I keep
hitting roadblocks. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I'm trying
to get a compile of
Ezra/sword-build-win32 on
Visual Studio 2017 on Windows
10 (I have the community
version installed at home
where I'm working). It
appears that there was some
attempt to overcome problems
with Visual Studio versions
but there seems to be a
disconnect in the batch files.
So, with minor tweaks, I get
compiles on everything except
build_sword.bat. A change to
the .bat file got an actual
attempt at a compile. Some
missing .h files were soled
with added some Include paths.
Then some missing C files were
flagged. Tried to fix that and
it all blew up.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I've also
tried to take dlls from other
repositories in an attempt to
bypass the compile problems
but run into other version
issues with Windows 10 and VS
2017 (missing msvcr80.dll and
msvcp80.dll among others). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I don't
want to be a burden. I also
don't want to give up trying.
I'd like to contribute but I
also want my contribution to
be effective. And I don't have
unlimited time to resolve
these issues on my own. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I think
I've explained what I'm trying
to do so I won't bore you with
another long explanation, but
simply put, I'd like to access
data so I can use it in C# and
ASP.Net.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I'm not
sure if I should wait for
another sword-build-win32
build or try to fix what I
can. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Any
advice? Am I missing
something?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks for
all of your patience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff
Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">-----Original
Message-----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Peter Von Kaehne</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Tuesday, June 08, 2021 5:41 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Gesendet:
Dienstag, 08. Juni 2021 um
12:42 Uhr</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Von: "Bob
Eaton" <a
href="mailto:bob_eaton@sall.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><bob_eaton@sall.com></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid
#0099CC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
5.0pt;margin-left:4.5pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">P.S. my
version of CSSword has a fix
for the problem of the 1.9.0
sources not displaying
non-roman scripts well in
the data returned by the
install manager. I think the
fix is two-part, one in
libsword.dll and one in
CSSword.dll. How do I
communicate the fixes to the
folks responsible for the
source code?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Wrt
libsword - open a bug report
(unless it already exists) in
JIRA and attach any patches
you have to it. One of us will
pick it up and if it makes
sense apply it. If it is in a
filter, likely me, if it is
more profound, likely Troy
will need to look at it. Send
an email onto the list with
reference to the issue opened
just for completeness sake </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="http://tracker.crosswire.org/projects/API/issues/API-217?filter=allopenissues"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://tracker.crosswire.org/projects/API/issues/API-217?filter=allopenissues</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Peter </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel <a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org></a>
On Behalf Of Jeff Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Saturday, June 5, 2021 4:24 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: 'SWORD
Developers' Collaboration
Forum' <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel@crosswire.org></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks for
the reply. I’m still getting
the lay-of-the-land in what
has been done in the SWORD
Project so pardon me if I
sound like a bit of a newb.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">As for
what I’m trying to do, the
long and the short of it is
this:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’m
looking for from SWORD is
content, including:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Bible
translations,Greek and Hebrew
Texts,Strong’s numbers and
content,Bible
dictionaries,section
headers,parallel
references,etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">which can
be delivered (preferably) via
IIS / .Net / COM / C#, etc. to
a reader. The current version
is HTML 5, JavaScript and CSS
tested primarily in Firefox
and delivered via IIS from a
C# application. The content is
‘borrowed’ from BibleHub’s
Interlinear pages and even
though I’m the only user I
feel like I’m not respecting
their licensing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">So, the
easiest way for me to move my
work forward is to find a way
to access SWORD content in
C#. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">How do I
do that?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I was
assuming that the Win32
interface could be used in a
C# application to access Bible
translations and other
materials which could then be
delivered to Web browsers via
IIS on the Windows Server
platform. That usually
requires implementing either a
COM or .Net compatible
interface in a DLL. I hope
I’m not over-explaining but I
know that most in this group
uses Linux based systems and
I’ve also seen mention of
Borland development tools on
Windows.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">What
technology are you considering
for the frontend side?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’ve spent
most of my programming time
for the last few decades in
Visual Studio and do most of
my work in C#. It’s a
well-rounded language and
simplifies a lot of the usual
peculiarities of C
programming. My professional
focus is on business database
applications with Web
delivery, either in Internet,
Intranet or Extranet
environments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Any
specific JS or CSS
libraries/frameworks?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">The simple
answer to your question is:
vanilla Javascript and pure
CSS in HTML5. Honestly, I’ve
been programming for decades
and after watching and
participating in the comings
and goings of many frameworks
and libraries I’ve become
something of a purist. I even
try to avoid JQuery unless a
customer is already committed
to it. My apps are generally
clean and fast because of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Are you
planning to use or develop
reusable web components?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I can. My
hope would be a set of DLLs
with .Net interface access.
I’m open to other
environments and have worked
(less extensively) in LAMP and
Linux Shell Scripting (as well
as a bunch of outdated and/or
obscure languages and
platforms). But my preference
is still Visual Studio and
ASP.Net.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’ve
looked at other databases and
content storage formats but
I’m very impressed with the
SWORD Project. I’ve been on
the Crosswire mailing list
since 2008. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Regardless
of the environment everything
that I do will be released as
open-source under whatever
licensing structure that you
all prefer. I’d like to see
this translated to as many
(human) languages as possible.
And along with that I intend
to respect all licensing
restrictions of content. While
that may be limiting or
complicating for development
it is the only way. Even if
that means modifying content
delivery on a per-user basis
that tracks content licenses
the same way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">As for my
ability to code, my first
production code was on a
Burroughs B6700 in FORTRAN 4.
It was then converted to run
on a PDP/8e in IEBASIC. It
was in High School and we also
had a cute little TRS-80 that
the computer club purchased
with money we made by selling
candy in the lunchroom. The
first Bible software that I
wrote was a KJV reader and
concordance written in
Revelation software (a PICK
licensee). It was 1987 and I
was in Bible college at the
time. I downloaded the KJV
book-by-book in plain text
format from a local BBS. I
guess I was frustrated with
spending long hours in the
Bible College library and with
the limitations of paper (and
the shortcomings of Strong’s
work). My concordance was
actually more exhaustive than
Strong’s, particularly in the
Minor Prophets where his work
tended to get a little
hit-and-miss. I wish I still
had a copy of it but it was
lost in a move years ago. I
actually attended the same
Bible College as the guys who
started BibleSoft. I offered
to consult on what they (well,
at that time it was just Jim)
were doing but things changed
at the church and we went our
separate ways. We crossed
paths again a few years later
but nothing came of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thank you
so much,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Tobias Klein</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Wednesday, June 02, 2021 11:24
PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: SWORD
Developers' Collaboration
Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Hi Jeff,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">When you
say Win32 code are you
referring to this? <a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">That’s the
SWORD dll (and its
dependencies) that becomes
part of Ezra Bible App.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To be
exact you find the dlls in the
release:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">As I tried
to implement the dll in a Web
application I found that I
also had to compile the c++
code (libsword) in order to
use the c# dll.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I don’t
understand this statement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Why did
you have to compile C++ code?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">My
understanding is that you can
include DLLs also via C# (and
this works in other languages
like Python, too) and use them
directly without any
additional C/C++ compilation
necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">With that
I’m also wondering if the
appropriate dlls (from c++
source code) might be included
in a later version of the
Win32 code on Github.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I will
keep releasing new builds of
SWORD as I need them for Ezra
Bible App.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I actually
need to perform one soon,
because I would like to
utilize Troy’s latest changes
regarding the extraction of
section headers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">However,
with trunk there are currently
still CMake build issues on
Windows (Did you have a chance
to look into this, Greg?).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">One
alternative for your C# server
side implementation could be
to use node-sword-interface
and serve the requests via
node.js. I have been thinking
about implementing a web-based
backend for Ezra Bible App on
this basis at some point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">What
technology are you considering
for the frontend side?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Any
specific JS or CSS
libraries/frameworks?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Are you
planning to use or develop
reusable web components?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff, good
luck with your efforts!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Am
01.06.2021 um 14:03 schrieb
Jeff Becker <a
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com[mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com]"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com[mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com]></a>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias (et
al),</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’ve
downloaded the Win32 code and
had a successful compile. As
I tried to implement the dll
in a Web application I found
that I also had to compile the
c++ code (libsword) in order
to use the c# dll. Not a
problem but as I was setting
up my new computer with the
rather cumbersome c++
environment it occurred to me
that it might be easier to ask
for help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’m
wondering if it’s possible to
get a compiled dll from
another developer that will
run (safely and securely) in
my environment. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Since I
don’t have any other reasons
to develop in c++ at this time
I might be able to avoid the
gyrations of getting
everything downloaded and
configured. It seems that
there might be others who
would also be interested in c#
development who would also be
benefitted from it. With that
I’m also wondering if the
appropriate dlls (from c++
source code) might be included
in a later version of the
Win32 code on Github.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’m just
getting familiar with the code
so I don’t know how much I’m
really asking. Is it a simple
matter to get a copy of the
dlls from someone else or do I
have to compile myself in my
own environment?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Jeff Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Monday, May 24, 2021 4:28 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: 'SWORD
Developers' Collaboration
Forum'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thank you
for the feedback. I agree that
the parabible is as similar to
what I’m trying to accomplish
as anything I’ve found so far.
I will definitely contact the
author.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Regarding
the DLLs, since Win32 is
reaching the end of its
support I’d like to update to
64-bit technology including
later versions of .Net
framework. Doing so may
provide significant
improvements in ease of
programming and performance.
If it’s all right with you
I’ll try to start with the
Win32 code that you have on
GitHub and work from there.
I’d appreciate hearing your
thoughts and goals for that
code when it was created so I
can keep with that as much as
is practical. However, I
would like to keep an open
mind. Sometimes it might be
more advantageous to start
fresh in order to take full
advantage of changing
technologies.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I would
also appreciate any guidance
in keeping with SWORD
protocols and practices so
that any work that is done can
be readily used by others.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I think I
have what I need to get
started. After I’m familiar
with the available code I’ll
come back with any design /
redesign questions for
discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks
again to all for the help,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Tobias Klein</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Sunday, May 23, 2021 4:55 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Hi Jeff,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I have
recently discovered this:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://parabible.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://parabible.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Maybe you
should contact the author ...
seems similar to what you have
been describing and showing
... also webserver / webclient
based architecture.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Regarding
a functioning SWORD build for
Windows (DLLs built with
latest MSVS compilers ...) -
have a look here:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">A general
thought regarding web-based
frontends ...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">There are
now web components since a few
years - a standard that
enables easier re-use of
web-based components across
applications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Have a
look here:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components</a>[<a
href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I have
been starting to use web
components in Ezra Bible App
... and if you also work on
certain frontend components
maybe there is a possibility
for sharing things!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">On 5/23/21
3:19 AM, Jeff Becker wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thank you
for the feedback (not included
here). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I think
I’ve figured out what I’d like
to do:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Stay with Web delivery of this
content</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
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href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-33-04.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-33-04.png</a>]
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href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-18-43.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-18-43.png</a>]
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href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-30-14.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-30-14.png</a>]
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(see details below)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">2.
Implement the Crosswire /
SWORD Project content
(adhering to all applicable
licensing)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Including multilingual content
and flexibility (English only
seems short-sighted)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">3.
Continue developing in
ASP.Net[<a
href="http://asp.net/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://asp.net/</a>]
/ IIS / Visual Studio / CLR</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Even after considering all of
the suggestions and reviewing
available applications (partly
because it’s my wheelhouse)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">4.
Develop reusable code for the
MS platform and make it
available for download
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
I’d like to see a wrapper that
parallels the existing
Crosswire / SWORD Project code
base so that developers can
easily implement it in VS20xx </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">2.
Possibly a dll that runs under
MS Common Language Runtime
(CLR) so that it’s readily
available for C#, VB, C++,
etc. developers (I’m not sure
if just making source code
available is enough)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">5.
Find or develop a database of
English (or any available
language) words derived from
Biblical Greek words</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Does anyone know anything
about ‘English derivatives
from the Greek New Testament’
by Charles Van der Pool?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">So, if
that’s acceptable, I could use
some help getting started:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">6.
Advice from others who have
developed in Visual Studio
(the latest code that I was
able to find was for VS 2013)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">7. A
document or Wiki that would
get content available in
Windows 10, Windows Server
2019, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">8.
Instructions on how to make
this compliant with Crosswire
/ SWORD Project standards
including licensing of content</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks
again for any help you can
provide.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff
Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Jeff Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Saturday, May 15, 2021 9:09 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: 'SWORD
Developers' Collaboration
Forum'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
[sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Here are
some screenshots of the
Greek/Hebrew Reader that I’ve
been describing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Some
points of interest:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
‘guid=’ in URL just indicates
the user id used as a record
key for preferences and
bookmarks on the server;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">2.
Navigation buttons shift to
left for Hebrew to be out of
the way as much as possible;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">3.
Bookmark is stored when a
verse reference number is
clicked/touched;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">4.
Shaded bookmark (paperclip)
button: shaded at top means
that server has outdated info,
bottom means bookmarks need to
be downloaded;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">5.
Font enlarge and shrink
buttons (per device basis);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">6.
Arrow buttons: up/down to
top/bottom; center button
scrolls to current bookmark;
left goes to previous
chapter/book; right to next
chapter/book;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">7.
Banner at top displays
relevant information and links
(I’d like to make this
customizable for readers of
varying skill levels);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">8.
Options panel displays when
bookmark (paperclip) is
clicked;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">9.
‘Select / Go To Bookmark’
displays select of stored
bookmarks (per user based on
guid, see additional
screenshot);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">10.
Books are marked as ‘Done’
when on the last chapter of
the book and the ‘Next
Chapter/Book’ button is
selected;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">11.
Reading plan is selected
through select prompt;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">12. Red
text on Upload / Download
buttons shows that client or
server has later information
(also displayed in shading of
paperclip nav button);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">13.
‘Move verse to top on Click’
scrolls bookmarked verse to
top of window when verse
number is clicked;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">14.
‘Store v1 on Next Chapter
Click’ automatically updates
current bookmark to next
chapter/book when Next button
is clicked;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">15.
Current bookmark is displayed;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">16.
Previous / Next are chapters
in reading plan (not that
‘Next’ shows Matthew 1 after
Mark 16 based on Daniel
Wallace’s reading plan;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">17.
Cookies are for debugging
purposes;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">18. Text
is currently just a cleaned up
version of the BibleHub
Interlinear page;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">The
BibleHub page content is the
main problem that I’d like to
change next and, as such, is
the main reason for all of
this communication. I’d like
to replace it with licensed
content that is easier to
control and display.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I hope
that explains things better.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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