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<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Is there anything I can do to help here? I'm not sure I
understand the problem.</p>
<p>Bob Eaton wrote to the list on 6/8 that he was able to get things
compiled and working. Why do we still have a problem to solve?</p>
<p>Let me know if I can help.</p>
<p>As a side, if we do still have trouble, SWORD can be configured
to compile with no dependencies. If you can successfully create a
simple project to build a simple C# class which calls a simple C++
class, then you should be able to call SWORD from C#. Maybe
starting from a simple project without SWORD involved might be the
best place to start. From there, you should be able to drop all
the SWORD classes. If you get that working, then you can
introduce dependencies to SWORD to extend functionality.</p>
<p>Hope we get things working for everyone,</p>
<p>Troy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/21 10:58 AM, Tobias Klein
wrote:<br>
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<p>Maybe Daniel Hughes can help? I think he is the original author
of the SWORD C# bindings, which were added in April 2014.<br>
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<p>Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/16/21 8:02 PM, Tobias Klein
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<p style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family:
sans-serif; margin: 8pt 0;">Am 16. Juni 2021 13:00:00
schrieb "Jeff Becker" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com></a>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tobias,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
sorry for the confusion that I’m having (and
seem to be sharing). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
get a clean build on the sword-build-win32
sword\bindings\csharp\Sword.csproj which
includes the NativeMethods class. That class is
made up of DLLIMPORT calls to a ‘libsword.dll’.
However, when I step through the code it won’t
load the dll specified even when I change the
name or relative path. I have checked the
dllName (DLLNAME const) and the reference points
to a copy of the sword.dll. That leads me to
believe that it’s actually a call to a
dependency that’s causing the problem. PEStudio
has pointed me to various missing dependencies.
I’m not sure of the algorithm that it uses to
determine those dependencies as its focus is
actually on viral threat assessment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s
currently showing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">libbz2.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">liblzma.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">libcurl.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">icuin65<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">icuuc65.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">kernel32.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">msvcp140.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">vcruntime140.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-heap-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-string-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-stdio-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-convert-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-filesystem-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-environment-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-time-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
first five are part of sword. The next three
aren’t a problem. But the ‘api-ms-win-crt-…’
have been rolled up into libraries. I’ve tried
several different methods to install them but
all I get are the new version. This is a new
computer and new installation of Windows 10. I’m
guessing that this would run if I had installed
the earlier version of the Redistributable
(VS2015, VS2017) these would have installed.
But the currently available version doesn’t
include these dlls. It only includes the new
libraries which replace those listed here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve
tried to verify the existence of the entry
points but I’m certain that it would give a
different error than the ‘cannot load’ error
that always comes up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
this be what’s been giving me problems?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Again,
thank you so much for the help,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tobias Klein [<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:contact@tklein.info</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 14, 2021 11:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Becker<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader screenshots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I do not have another/later set of SWORD dlls.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What do you mean when you say "<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">NativeMethods class"?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I am not sure
right now where the name of the SWORD.dll is
configured. Potentially in the SWORD CMake
configuration.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is what is
done for building SWORD (once all the
dependencies are available):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#354DA6">cmake -B build\sword -G
"Visual Studio 16 2019" -A Win32 ^<br>
-DCMAKE_WINDOWS_EXPORT_ALL_SYMBOLS=TRUE ^<br>
-DBZIP2_LIBRARY=%cd%\%2\libbz2.lib ^<br>
-DBZIP2_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\bzip2 ^<br>
-DXZ_LIBRARY=%cd%\%2\liblzma.lib ^<br>
-DXZ_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\xz\src\liblzma\api ^<br>
-DICU_ROOT=%cd%\icu\icu4c ^<br>
-DICU_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\icu\icu4c\include ^<br>
-DCURL_LIBRARY=%cd%\%2\libcurl_imp.lib ^<br>
-DCURL_INCLUDE_DIR=%cd%\curl\include ^<br>
sword<br>
<br>
devenv build\sword\libsword.sln /Build Debug
/Project sword<br>
dir build\sword\Debug\<br>
copy build\sword\Debug\sword.dll %2\<br>
copy build\sword\Debug\sword.lib %2\<br>
copy build\sword\Debug\sword.pdb %2\</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Are the "missing
DLLs" actually causing any issue with a linked
binary? When I link node-sword-interface with
the sword.dll on Windows I do not face such
issues - neither during build, nor during
runtime. But that's a different
configuration/usecase I suppose.<br>
<br>
Did you try already try to link the sword dll
into some sample application?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Moving forward, the only way I can help is if you
submit your Visual Studio project (of that sample
application) - can you share it, can you put it on
GitHub? If I do not have access to your project
configuration I'll not be able to
debug/reproduce/understand.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<br>
Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/14/21 11:39 AM, Jeff
Becker wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
did try the dlls from the link you gave (it’s
also in another email thread). That was when
I ran into the missing Windows dlls problem
(msvcr80.dll and msvcp80.dll as indicated by
an assessment tool). Those dlls only install
with the VS2005 C++ Redistribution Kit (which
is no longer available on Microsoft.com) or
with various MS Office and other 32 bit MS
applications (which I don’t have installed on
my Windows 10 machine). Also, the
NativeMethods class in the sword-build-win32
looks for ‘libsword’ (.dll) not sword.dll. The
latter (sword.dll) is in the release artifacts
on Git. I don’t know the difference between
the two dlls. I also noticed that the
NativeMethods class uses the Windows CE
calling convention rather than the standard
Winapi. I don’t know if that has a effect on
all of this. Or maybe I’m just not
understanding the way that the Sword dlls are
organized.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All
of that was the reason I tried to get a
compile but had some difficulties.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
can try to find a reliable version of the MS
dlls from a third party but I’m not very
trusting when comes to those sites. I’ve
checked a Windows 7 machine that I have here
but those dlls were not on it. (Note that you
have to look directly into the folders for
them because search sometimes overlook hidden
and system files.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is
it possible that you have a later set of Sword
dlls that import a later version of the
Windows dlls (mscrt100.dll, etc.)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry
to be a burden. Thank you for the help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Tobias Klein [<a
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:contact@tklein.info</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:52
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Becker<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The released DLLs are not
in the Git repo, but rather uploaded as
release artifacts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">See <a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tobias<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:8.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Am
13. Juni 2021 09:08:25 schrieb "Jeff
Becker" <a
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com></a>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe
the problem is VS2017 or Windows
10. A compiled dll should be
backward compatible to VS2017 from
VS2019 (in most cases) because it
relies mostly on Windows
compatibility once a library is
compiled.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
tried geting the Dlls from the
Github clone but didn’t find them. I
dug around and got dlls but they
didn’t load. The CSSword project
compiled in C# but the dll but
wouldn’t load when called in my
project (missing libsword.dll). I
checked dependencies and they were
looking for dlls that weren’t in the
build and weren’t in Windows 10,
VS2017 (C#,C++,VB). Two of the dlls
that came up were msvcr80.dll and
msvcp80.dll which I could only find
in a VS 2005 C++ Redistribution
installer. The system32 folder had
later versions and an earlier
version (msvcp40.dll, I think).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ll
go back and try it again. Maybe I
missed something.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
for your response,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div
style="border:none;border-top:solid
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
Tobias Klein [<a
href="mailto:contact@tklein.info"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:contact@tklein.info</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 12,
2021 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum; Jeff Becker<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff, I'll
have a look asap. What I can say
is that with the current scripts
used this all automatically
built via GitHub actions using
the MSVS2019 tool chain and
CMake without any trouble. Since
there are DLLs available (both
SWORD and its dependencies) I
still don't fully understand
your need for a rebuild. Did you
try the DLLs and that didn't
work? What didn't work exactly?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Am 11.
Juni 2021 09:31:10 schrieb
"Jeff Becker" <a
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com></a>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I'm
impressed with all that I
see in this project. The
more that I learn about the
SWORD Project, as I dig into
the code and all that has
been done, the more
impressed I become. I think
this is an impressive work
and everyone involved should
be honored as part of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">But I
keep hitting roadblocks. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I'm
trying to get a compile of
Ezra/sword-build-win32 on
Visual Studio 2017 on
Windows 10 (I have the
community version installed
at home where I'm working).
It appears that there was
some attempt to overcome
problems with Visual Studio
versions but there seems to
be a disconnect in the batch
files. So, with minor
tweaks, I get compiles on
everything except
build_sword.bat. A change to
the .bat file got an actual
attempt at a compile. Some
missing .h files were soled
with added some Include
paths. Then some missing C
files were flagged. Tried to
fix that and it all blew up.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I've
also tried to take dlls from
other repositories in an
attempt to bypass the
compile problems but run
into other version issues
with Windows 10 and VS 2017
(missing msvcr80.dll and
msvcp80.dll among others). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I don't
want to be a burden. I also
don't want to give up
trying. I'd like to
contribute but I also want
my contribution to be
effective. And I don't have
unlimited time to resolve
these issues on my own. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I think
I've explained what I'm
trying to do so I won't bore
you with another long
explanation, but simply put,
I'd like to access data so I
can use it in C# and
ASP.Net.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I'm not
sure if I should wait for
another sword-build-win32
build or try to fix what I
can. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Any
advice? Am I missing
something?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks
for all of your patience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff
Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">-----Original
Message-----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Peter Von
Kaehne</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Tuesday, June 08, 2021 5:41
AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader
screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Gesendet:
Dienstag, 08. Juni 2021 um
12:42 Uhr</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Von:
"Bob Eaton" <a
href="mailto:bob_eaton@sall.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><bob_eaton@sall.com></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid
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5.0pt;margin-left:4.5pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">P.S.
my version of CSSword has
a fix for the problem of
the 1.9.0 sources not
displaying non-roman
scripts well in the data
returned by the install
manager. I think the fix
is two-part, one in
libsword.dll and one in
CSSword.dll. How do I
communicate the fixes to
the folks responsible for
the source code?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Wrt
libsword - open a bug report
(unless it already exists)
in JIRA and attach any
patches you have to it. One
of us will pick it up and if
it makes sense apply it. If
it is in a filter, likely
me, if it is more profound,
likely Troy will need to
look at it. Send an email
onto the list with reference
to the issue opened just for
completeness sake </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="http://tracker.crosswire.org/projects/API/issues/API-217?filter=allopenissues"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://tracker.crosswire.org/projects/API/issues/API-217?filter=allopenissues</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Peter </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel <a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org></a>
On Behalf Of Jeff Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Saturday, June 5, 2021 4:24
AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To:
'SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum' <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel@crosswire.org></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader
screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks
for the reply. I’m still
getting the lay-of-the-land
in what has been done in the
SWORD Project so pardon me
if I sound like a bit of a
newb.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">As for
what I’m trying to do, the
long and the short of it is
this:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’m
looking for from SWORD is
content, including:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Bible
translations,Greek and
Hebrew Texts,Strong’s
numbers and content,Bible
dictionaries,section
headers,parallel
references,etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">which
can be delivered
(preferably) via IIS / .Net
/ COM / C#, etc. to a
reader. The current version
is HTML 5, JavaScript and
CSS tested primarily in
Firefox and delivered via
IIS from a C# application.
The content is ‘borrowed’
from BibleHub’s Interlinear
pages and even though I’m
the only user I feel like
I’m not respecting their
licensing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">So, the
easiest way for me to move
my work forward is to find a
way to access SWORD content
in C#. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">How do I
do that?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I was
assuming that the Win32
interface could be used in a
C# application to access
Bible translations and other
materials which could then
be delivered to Web browsers
via IIS on the Windows
Server platform. That
usually requires
implementing either a COM or
.Net compatible interface in
a DLL. I hope I’m not
over-explaining but I know
that most in this group uses
Linux based systems and I’ve
also seen mention of Borland
development tools on
Windows.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">What
technology are you
considering for the frontend
side?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’ve
spent most of my programming
time for the last few
decades in Visual Studio and
do most of my work in C#.
It’s a well-rounded
language and simplifies a
lot of the usual
peculiarities of C
programming. My
professional focus is on
business database
applications with Web
delivery, either in
Internet, Intranet or
Extranet environments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Any
specific JS or CSS
libraries/frameworks?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">The
simple answer to your
question is: vanilla
Javascript and pure CSS in
HTML5. Honestly, I’ve been
programming for decades and
after watching and
participating in the comings
and goings of many
frameworks and libraries
I’ve become something of a
purist. I even try to avoid
JQuery unless a customer is
already committed to it. My
apps are generally clean and
fast because of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Are you
planning to use or develop
reusable web components?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I can.
My hope would be a set of
DLLs with .Net interface
access. I’m open to other
environments and have worked
(less extensively) in LAMP
and Linux Shell Scripting
(as well as a bunch of
outdated and/or obscure
languages and platforms).
But my preference is still
Visual Studio and ASP.Net.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’ve
looked at other databases
and content storage formats
but I’m very impressed with
the SWORD Project. I’ve been
on the Crosswire mailing
list since 2008. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Regardless
of the environment
everything that I do will be
released as open-source
under whatever licensing
structure that you all
prefer. I’d like to see
this translated to as many
(human) languages as
possible. And along with
that I intend to respect all
licensing restrictions of
content. While that may be
limiting or complicating for
development it is the only
way. Even if that means
modifying content delivery
on a per-user basis that
tracks content licenses the
same way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">As for
my ability to code, my first
production code was on a
Burroughs B6700 in FORTRAN
4. It was then converted to
run on a PDP/8e in IEBASIC.
It was in High School and
we also had a cute little
TRS-80 that the computer
club purchased with money we
made by selling candy in the
lunchroom. The first Bible
software that I wrote was a
KJV reader and concordance
written in Revelation
software (a PICK licensee).
It was 1987 and I was in
Bible college at the time. I
downloaded the KJV
book-by-book in plain text
format from a local BBS. I
guess I was frustrated with
spending long hours in the
Bible College library and
with the limitations of
paper (and the shortcomings
of Strong’s work). My
concordance was actually
more exhaustive than
Strong’s, particularly in
the Minor Prophets where his
work tended to get a little
hit-and-miss. I wish I
still had a copy of it but
it was lost in a move years
ago. I actually attended
the same Bible College as
the guys who started
BibleSoft. I offered to
consult on what they (well,
at that time it was just
Jim) were doing but things
changed at the church and we
went our separate ways. We
crossed paths again a few
years later but nothing came
of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thank
you so much,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Tobias Klein</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Wednesday, June 02, 2021
11:24 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To:
SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader
screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Hi Jeff,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">When you
say Win32 code are you
referring to this? <a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">That’s
the SWORD dll (and its
dependencies) that becomes
part of Ezra Bible App.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To be
exact you find the dlls in
the release:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32/releases/tag/v1.8.900-2020-11-04</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">As I
tried to implement the dll
in a Web application I found
that I also had to compile
the c++ code (libsword) in
order to use the c# dll.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I don’t
understand this statement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Why did
you have to compile C++
code?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">My
understanding is that you
can include DLLs also via C#
(and this works in other
languages like Python, too)
and use them directly
without any additional C/C++
compilation necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">With
that I’m also wondering if
the appropriate dlls (from
c++ source code) might be
included in a later version
of the Win32 code on Github.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I will
keep releasing new builds of
SWORD as I need them for
Ezra Bible App.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I
actually need to perform one
soon, because I would like
to utilize Troy’s latest
changes regarding the
extraction of section
headers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">However,
with trunk there are
currently still CMake build
issues on Windows (Did you
have a chance to look into
this, Greg?).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">One
alternative for your C#
server side implementation
could be to use
node-sword-interface and
serve the requests via
node.js. I have been
thinking about implementing
a web-based backend for Ezra
Bible App on this basis at
some point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">What
technology are you
considering for the frontend
side?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Any
specific JS or CSS
libraries/frameworks?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Are you
planning to use or develop
reusable web components?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff,
good luck with your efforts!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Am
01.06.2021 um 14:03 schrieb
Jeff Becker <a
href="mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com[mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com]"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jbecker@fiveviews.com[mailto:jbecker@fiveviews.com]></a>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias
(et al),</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’ve
downloaded the Win32 code
and had a successful
compile. As I tried to
implement the dll in a Web
application I found that I
also had to compile the c++
code (libsword) in order to
use the c# dll. Not a
problem but as I was setting
up my new computer with the
rather cumbersome c++
environment it occurred to
me that it might be easier
to ask for help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’m
wondering if it’s possible
to get a compiled dll from
another developer that will
run (safely and securely) in
my environment. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Since I
don’t have any other reasons
to develop in c++ at this
time I might be able to
avoid the gyrations of
getting everything
downloaded and configured.
It seems that there might
be others who would also be
interested in c# development
who would also be benefitted
from it. With that I’m also
wondering if the appropriate
dlls (from c++ source code)
might be included in a later
version of the Win32 code on
Github.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I’m just
getting familiar with the
code so I don’t know how
much I’m really asking. Is
it a simple matter to get a
copy of the dlls from
someone else or do I have to
compile myself in my own
environment?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Jeff Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Monday, May 24, 2021 4:28 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To:
'SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader
screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thank
you for the feedback. I
agree that the parabible is
as similar to what I’m
trying to accomplish as
anything I’ve found so far.
I will definitely contact
the author.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Regarding
the DLLs, since Win32 is
reaching the end of its
support I’d like to update
to 64-bit technology
including later versions of
.Net framework. Doing so may
provide significant
improvements in ease of
programming and performance.
If it’s all right with you
I’ll try to start with the
Win32 code that you have on
GitHub and work from there.
I’d appreciate hearing your
thoughts and goals for that
code when it was created so
I can keep with that as much
as is practical. However, I
would like to keep an open
mind. Sometimes it might be
more advantageous to start
fresh in order to take full
advantage of changing
technologies.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I would
also appreciate any guidance
in keeping with SWORD
protocols and practices so
that any work that is done
can be readily used by
others.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I think
I have what I need to get
started. After I’m familiar
with the available code I’ll
come back with any design /
redesign questions for
discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks
again to all for the help,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Tobias Klein</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Sunday, May 23, 2021 4:55 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To: <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
Re: [sword-devel]
Greek/Hebrew Reader
screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Hi Jeff,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I have
recently discovered this:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/parabible/parabible-client</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://parabible.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://parabible.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Maybe
you should contact the
author ... seems similar to
what you have been
describing and showing ...
also webserver / webclient
based architecture.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Regarding
a functioning SWORD build
for Windows (DLLs built with
latest MSVS compilers ...) -
have a look here:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>[<a
href="https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/ezra-bible-app/sword-build-win32</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">A
general thought regarding
web-based frontends ...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">There
are now web components since
a few years - a standard
that enables easier re-use
of web-based components
across applications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Have a
look here:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components</a>[<a
href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I have
been starting to use web
components in Ezra Bible App
... and if you also work on
certain frontend components
maybe there is a possibility
for sharing things!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Tobias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">On
5/23/21 3:19 AM, Jeff Becker
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thank
you for the feedback (not
included here). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I think
I’ve figured out what I’d
like to do:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Stay with Web delivery of
this content</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Screenshot_1[<a
href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-33-04.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-33-04.png</a>]
Screenshot_2[<a
href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-18-43.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-18-43.png</a>]
Screenshot 3[<a
href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-30-14.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-30-14.png</a>]
Screenshot 4[<a
href="http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-53-40.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bible.fiveviews.net/Images/ScreenShots/Screenshot_2021-05-15-20-53-40.png</a>]
(see details below)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">2.
Implement the Crosswire /
SWORD Project content
(adhering to all applicable
licensing)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Including multilingual
content and flexibility
(English only seems
short-sighted)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">3.
Continue developing in
ASP.Net[<a
href="http://asp.net/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://asp.net/</a>]
/ IIS / Visual Studio / CLR</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Even after considering all
of the suggestions and
reviewing available
applications (partly because
it’s my wheelhouse)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">4.
Develop reusable code for
the MS platform and make it
available for download
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
I’d like to see a wrapper
that parallels the existing
Crosswire / SWORD Project
code base so that developers
can easily implement it in
VS20xx </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">2.
Possibly a dll that runs
under MS Common Language
Runtime (CLR) so that it’s
readily available for C#,
VB, C++, etc. developers
(I’m not sure if just making
source code available is
enough)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">5.
Find or develop a database
of English (or any available
language) words derived from
Biblical Greek words</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
Does anyone know anything
about ‘English derivatives
from the Greek New
Testament’ by Charles Van
der Pool?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">So, if
that’s acceptable, I could
use some help getting
started:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">6.
Advice from others who have
developed in Visual Studio
(the latest code that I was
able to find was for VS
2013)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">7.
A document or Wiki that
would get content available
in Windows 10, Windows
Server 2019, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">8.
Instructions on how to make
this compliant with
Crosswire / SWORD Project
standards including
licensing of content</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Thanks
again for any help you can
provide.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff
Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">From:
sword-devel [<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>[<a
href="mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel-bounces@crosswire.org</a>]]
On Behalf Of Jeff Becker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Sent:
Saturday, May 15, 2021 9:09
PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">To:
'SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Subject:
[sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew
Reader screenshots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Here are
some screenshots of the
Greek/Hebrew Reader that
I’ve been describing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Some
points of interest:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">1.
‘guid=’ in URL just
indicates the user id used
as a record key for
preferences and bookmarks on
the server;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">2.
Navigation buttons shift to
left for Hebrew to be out of
the way as much as possible;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">3.
Bookmark is stored when a
verse reference number is
clicked/touched;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">4.
Shaded bookmark (paperclip)
button: shaded at top means
that server has outdated
info, bottom means bookmarks
need to be downloaded;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">5.
Font enlarge and shrink
buttons (per device basis);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">6.
Arrow buttons: up/down to
top/bottom; center button
scrolls to current bookmark;
left goes to previous
chapter/book; right to next
chapter/book;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">7.
Banner at top displays
relevant information and
links (I’d like to make this
customizable for readers of
varying skill levels);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">8.
Options panel displays when
bookmark (paperclip) is
clicked;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">9.
‘Select / Go To Bookmark’
displays select of stored
bookmarks (per user based on
guid, see additional
screenshot);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">10.
Books are marked as ‘Done’
when on the last chapter of
the book and the ‘Next
Chapter/Book’ button is
selected;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">11.
Reading plan is selected
through select prompt;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">12.
Red text on Upload /
Download buttons shows that
client or server has later
information (also displayed
in shading of paperclip nav
button);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">13.
‘Move verse to top on Click’
scrolls bookmarked verse to
top of window when verse
number is clicked;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">14.
‘Store v1 on Next Chapter
Click’ automatically updates
current bookmark to next
chapter/book when Next
button is clicked;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">15.
Current bookmark is
displayed;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">16.
Previous / Next are chapters
in reading plan (not that
‘Next’ shows Matthew 1 after
Mark 16 based on Daniel
Wallace’s reading plan;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">17.
Cookies are for debugging
purposes;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">18.
Text is currently just a
cleaned up version of the
BibleHub Interlinear page;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">The
BibleHub page content is the
main problem that I’d like
to change next and, as such,
is the main reason for all
of this communication. I’d
like to replace it with
licensed content that is
easier to control and
display.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">I hope
that explains things better.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">sword-devel
mailing list: <a
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href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black"><a
href="http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">Instructions
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style="color:black">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">sword-devel
mailing list: <a
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style="color:black">_______________________________________________
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style="color:black">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">sword-devel
mailing list: <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black">sword-devel
mailing list: <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
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