<html><head></head><body> <div>Dear Troy,</div><div><br></div><div>Urgent!</div><div><br></div><div>Please see my separate email just sent to you with cc to DM & Dom. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<caret></caret> </div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail for iOS</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 03:41, Troy A. Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class="">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite">
<p>I've just pushed an update (2.10) of our KJV module with the only
change between 2.9 and the new 2.10 being a manual check and
correction of all Strong's 3688 numbers.</p>
<p>Vladimir, thank you so much for reporting this problem. DM and
David are investigating further and will make any additional
corrections.</p>
<p>DM and David, we all so appreciate the work you've done to take
the KJV2003 community effort marking up the KJV text with Strong's
numbers, to what our KJV module is today-- work often unnoticed
which millions of people use each day. Thank you.</p>
<p>Happy Easter! Praise the Lord for willingly offering the
propitiation by His blood! In Him,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/3/21 6:06 PM, DM Smith wrote:<br>
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The history of the module is listed in the wiki: <a href="https://wiki.crosswire.org/CrossWire_KJV#Module_Versions" class="">https://wiki.crosswire.org/CrossWire_KJV#Module_Versions</a>.
That listing isn’t meant to be cryptic but rather complete. The
version history in the conf is not as complete. We can make it
more complete/in sync.
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<div class="">The version 2.6 has the problem. In that version we
added the Greek words as found in the TR, using the version by
Maurice Robinson, which can now be found at <a href="https://sites.google.com/a/wmail.fi/greeknt/home/greeknt" class="">https://sites.google.com/a/wmail.fi/greeknt/home/greeknt</a>.</div>
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<div class="">I still have the TR download and the scripts from
that change. So with some effort David and I can figure it out.</div>
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<div class="">On Apr 3, 2021, at 8:31 PM, DM Smith <<a href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org" class="">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">David
and I’ll look at this soon. We’ll try to figure out how
this happened and whether the problem is bigger than
this. <br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">— DM Smith</div>
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<div class="">On Apr 3, 2021, at 5:40 PM, David
Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class="">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Hi Troy,</div>
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<div class="">I will discuss the reported issue
with DM as and when I have enough free time. </div>
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<div class="">We should definitely not revert to
2.4 as that would simply undo all the good
work from 2.5 through 2.9</div>
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<div class="">If there’s a mistake, we can
include the corrections in version 2.10 which
is still in preparation and has been for
several years. </div>
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I didn’t respond earlier simply because I’ve had
other matters to attend to today. <br class="">
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<div class="">Happy Easter!</div>
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<div class="">David</div>
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 21:42, Troy A. Griffitts
<<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class="">scribe@crosswire.org</a>>
wrote:
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<p class="">A bit more investigation, this
seems to be introduced between versions of
our KJV 2.4 and 2.5. <br class="">
</p>
<p class="">2.4 reads correctly. 2.5 has this
problem. Unfortunately we have
uninformative information in our History
.conf entries between these versions.</p>
<p class="">I am tempted to roll back this
module to 2.4.</p>
<p class="">Can anyone speak to the issue of
how Strong's number values could possibly
change between version 2.4 and 2.5; and when
we discover how this could happen, what
other problems this might have introduced in
revision 2.5?</p>
<p class="">Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/3/21 7:58
AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class=""> This is a
bit disturbing I just check our lastest KJV
and TR modules (which was the base for the
Strong's markup in the KJV). I can confirm
that Romans 3:25 has Strong's 3688 whereas
the TR does not.<br class="">
<br class="">
DM and David have been the primary curators
of our KJV text. Any speculation on how an
error like this could have entered the text
and how that might be the cause of other
corruptions?<br class="">
<br class="">
Troy<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On April 3, 2021
4:18:01 AM MST, vtamara <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vtamara@pasosdeJesus.org"><vtamara@pasosdeJesus.org></a>
wrote:
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204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Sorry, I made mistake in my previos email, Romans 3:25 would show that
the word with Strong number 3688 is also τω. But according to
<a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3688&t=KJV" class="">https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3688&t=KJV</a>
the word with strong number 3688 is ὄνος (donkey).
<a href="https://biblehub.com/greek/3688.htm" class="">https://biblehub.com/greek/3688.htm</a> also shows that the word would be
ὄνος
Even KVJ module in verse John 12:15 shows that the word with Strong
number G3688 is ὄνος:
<w lemma="strong:G3688 lemma.TR:ονου" morph="robinson:N-GSF" src="13">an
ass’s</w>
(so as well as in Mat 21:2, Mat 21:5, Mat 21:6, Luk 13.15, Luk 14:5).
Anyway I think in Romans 3:25 and 3:26 the word τῷ should have Strong
number 3588.
I see similar problem with G3688 in the following verses of the KJV
module:
* Mat 26:11
* Mat 26:12
* Mat 26:45
* Mat 26:69
* Mat 27:46
* Mark 1:9
* Mark 5:30
* Mark 13:20
* Luke 2:38
* Luke 8.46
* Luke 14:21
* Luke 16:9
* II Corinthians 1:8
* II Corinthians 1:9
* II Corinthians 8:14
* Revelation of John 11:4
* Revelation of John 14:7
Blessings.
El 2021-04-03 06:34, vtamara escribió:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Good morning in the Lord
For the module KJV the markup of Romans 3:26 is:
<w lemma="strong:G3688 strong:G2540 lemma.TR:τω lemma.TR:καιρω"
morph="robinson:T-DSM robinson:N-DSM" src="12 14">time</w>
that says that word number 12 in Greek is τω with Strong number 3688
However Romans 3:25 shows that the word with Strong number 3688 is
αιματι:
<w lemma="strong:G3688 strong:G129 lemma.TR:τω lemma.TR:αιματι"
morph="robinson:T-DSN robinson:N-DSN" src="10 12">blood</w>
And for example at
<a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3588&t=KJV" class="">https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3588&t=KJV</a>
I read that the Strong number 3588 corresponds to ὁ that is
interchangeable
with τῷ.
Then I think the Markup for the word number 12 of Romans 3:26 should
stay as τῷ but with Strong number 3588.
Blessings
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