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    <p>We have new Strongs Hebrew and Strongs Greek lexica available in
      CrossWire Beta.</p>
    <p>A big "thank you!" to the modules team for the efforts.</p>
    <p>Since these modules are core to much of the original language
      helps in many of our frontends, it would be great to hear from
      everyone on their experiences with the beta modules.<br>
    </p>
    <p>I'll start with a "before" and "after" (current Strongs Hebrew
      module and beta Strongs Hebrew module) view from Bishop at
      Nehemiah 1:1 of OSHB+Strongs Hebrew.</p>
    <p>After that, I'll include the facsimile entries from the text we
      are purporting to deliver.<br>
    </p>
    <p>And finally, after each faccsimile clip, I'll include the raw
      data from the current and beta modules, and also from what I
      believe is our new source for the Hebrew + the Open Scriptures
      Strongs Hebrew data, for reference, so we can discuss how we are
      capturing the source publication and converting from our data
      source.<br>
    </p>
    <p>I would love your consideration and to hear your comments.<br>
    </p>
    <p><img src="cid:part1.A5C41DCB.F28119A5@crosswire.org" alt=""><img
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    <p>OLD:</p>
    <p> 3691  Kiclev  kis-lave'<br>
      <br>
      <br>
       probably of foreign origin; Kisleu, the 9th Heb.<br>
       month:--Chisleu.<br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>BETA:</p>
    <p><entryFree n="3691">        
      <orth>כּסלו</orth><lb/>         <orth
      rend="bold" type="trans">kislêv</orth>         <pron
      rend="italic">kis-lave'</pron><lb/>        
      <def>Probably of foreign origin;<lb/> <hi
      rend="italic">{Kisleu}</hi> the ninth Hebrew <hi
      rend="bold">month:</hi> - Chisleu.</def>    
      </entryFree></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>SOURCE:</p>
    <p>        <item id="H3691"><br>
                      <strong_id>H3691</strong_id><br>
                      <title>כּסלו</title><br>
                     
      <transliteration>kislêv</transliteration><br>
                      <pronunciation><br>
                              <em>kis-lave'</em><br>
                      </pronunciation><br>
                      <description>Probably of foreign
      origin;<br/> <em>{Kisleu}</em> the ninth Hebrew
      <strong>month:</strong> - Chisleu.</description><br>
              </item><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>OSSH:</p>
         <div type="entry" n="3691"><br>
            <w gloss="1012" lemma="כִּסְלֵו" morph="n-pr-m"
    POS="kis-lave'" xlit="Kiçlêv" ID="H3691"
    xml:lang="x-pn">כסלו</w><br>
            <list><br>
              <item>Chisleu = "his confidence"</item><br>
              <item>1) the 9th month of the calendar corresponding
    to Nov-Dec</item><br>
            </list><br>
            <note type="exegesis">probably of foreign
    origin;</note><br>
            <note type="explanation"><hi>Kisleu</hi>,
    the 9th Hebrew month</note><br>
            <note type="translation">Chisleu.</note><br>
          </div><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <p><img src="cid:part4.7725385E.0A20DF5F@crosswire.org" alt=""></p>
    <p>OLD:</p>
    <p> 8141  shaneh  shaw-neh'<br>
      <br>
      <br>
       (in plura or (feminine) shanah {shaw-naw'}; from 8138; a year<br>
       (as a revolution of time):--+ whole age, X long, + old,<br>
       year(X -ly).<br>
       see HEBREW for 08138<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>BETA:</p>
    <p><entryFree n="8141">         <orth>שׁנה   
      שׁנה</orth><lb/>         <orth rend="bold"
      type="trans">shâneh  shânâh</orth>         <pron
      rend="italic">{shaw-neh'} shaw-naw'</pron><lb/>    
          <def>(The first form being in plural {only} the second
      form being feminine); from <ref
      target="StrongsHebrew:8138">H8138</ref>; a <hi
      rend="italic">year</hi> (as a <hi
      rend="italic">revolution</hi> of time): -  + whole {age}
      X {long} + {old} year (X -ly).</def>     </entryFree><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>SOURCE:</p>
    <p>        <item id="H8141"><br>
                      <strong_id>H8141</strong_id><br>
                      <title>שׁנה    שׁנה</title><br>
                      <transliteration>shâneh 
      shânâh</transliteration><br>
                      <pronunciation><br>
                              <em>{shaw-neh'} shaw-naw'</em><br>
                      </pronunciation><br>
                      <description>(The first form being in plural
      {only} the second form being feminine); from <link
      target="H8138">H8138</link>; a <em>year</em>
      (as a <em>revolution</em> of time): -  + whole {age} X
      {long} + {old} year (X -ly).</description><br>
              </item><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>OSSH:</p>
    <p>      <div type="entry" n="8141"><br>
              <w gloss="2419a" lemma="שָׁנֶה" morph="n-f"
      POS="shaw-neh'" xlit="shâneh" ID="H8141"
      xml:lang="heb">שנה</w><br>
              <foreign xml:lang="grc"><br>
                <w gloss="G:979" /><br>
                <w gloss="G:1763" /><br>
                <w gloss="G:2094" /><br>
                <w gloss="G:2094" /><br>
                <w gloss="G:2540" /><br>
              </foreign><br>
              <list><br>
                <item>1) year</item><br>
                <item>1a) as division of time</item><br>
                <item>1b) as measure of time</item><br>
                <item>1c) as indication of age</item><br>
                <item>1d) a lifetime (of years of
      life)</item><br>
              </list><br>
              <note type="exegesis">(in plural or (feminine) <w
      lemma="שָׁנָה" POS="shaw-naw'" xlit="shânâh"/>; from <w
      lemma="שָׁנָה" POS="shaw-naw'" src="8138"
      xlit="shânâh"/>;</note><br>
              <note type="explanation"><hi>a year</hi>
      (as a revolution of time)</note><br>
              <note type="translation">[phrase] whole age, [idiom]
      long, [phrase] old, year([idiom] -ly).</note><br>
            </div><br>
    </p>
    <p><img src="cid:part5.27ABB976.762B39A8@crosswire.org" alt=""></p>
    <p>OLD:</p>
    <p> 6242  `esriym  es-reem'<br>
      <br>
      <br>
       from 6235; twenty; also (ordinal) twentieth:--(six-)score,<br>
       twenty(-ieth).<br>
       see HEBREW for 06235<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>BETA:</p>
    <p><entryFree n="6242">        
      <orth>עשׂרים</orth><lb/>         <orth
      rend="bold" type="trans">‛eώrîym</orth>         <pron
      rend="italic">es-reem'</pron><lb/>        
      <def>From <ref
      target="StrongsHebrew:6235">H6235</ref>; <hi
      rend="italic">twenty</hi>; also (ordinal) <hi
      rend="bold">twentieth:</hi> - [six-] {score} twenty
      (-ieth).</def>     </entryFree><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>SOURCE:</p>
    <p>        <item id="H6242"><br>
                      <strong_id>H6242</strong_id><br>
                      <title>עשׂרים</title><br>
                     
      <transliteration>‛eώrîym</transliteration><br>
                      <pronunciation><br>
                              <em>es-reem'</em><br>
                      </pronunciation><br>
                      <description>From <link
      target="H6235">H6235</link>; <em>twenty</em>;
      also (ordinal)
      <strong><em>twentieth:</em></strong> -
      [six-] {score} twenty (-ieth).</description><br>
              </item><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>OSSH:</p>
    <p>      <div type="entry" n="6242"><br>
              <w gloss="1711e" lemma="עֶשְׂרִים" morph="n"
      POS="es-reem'" xlit="ʻesrîym" ID="H6242"
      xml:lang="heb">עשרים</w><br>
              <list><br>
                <item>1) twenty,  twentieth</item><br>
              </list><br>
              <note type="exegesis">from <w lemma="עֶשֶׂר"
      POS="eh'ser" src="6235" xlit="ʻeser"/>;</note><br>
              <note
      type="explanation"><hi>twenty</hi>; also (ordinal)
      <hi>twentieth</hi></note><br>
              <note type="translation">(six-) score,
      twenty(-ieth).</note><br>
            </div><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><img src="cid:part6.E6F7B807.3FB1D7D5@crosswire.org" alt=""></p>
    <p>OLD:</p>
    <p> 8674  Tattnay  tat-ten-ah'-ee<br>
       of foreign derivation; Tattenai, a Persian:--Tatnai.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>BETA:</p>
    <p><entryFree n="8674">           
      <orth>תּתּני</orth><lb/>          <orth
      rend="bold" type="trans">tatt<hi
      rend="super">e</hi>nay</orth>            <pron
      rend="italic">tat-ten-ah'ee</pron><lb/>          
      <def>Of foreign derivation;<lb/> <hi
      rend="italic">{Tattenai}</hi> a <hi
      rend="bold">Persian:</hi> - Tatnai.</def>     
      </entryFree><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>SOURCE:</p>
    <p>        <item id="H8674"><br>
                      <strong_id>H8674</strong_id><br>
                      <title>תּתּני</title><br>
                     
<transliteration>tatt<sup>e</sup>nay</transliteration><br>
                      <pronunciation><br>
                              <em>tat-ten-ah'ee</em><br>
                      </pronunciation><br>
                      <description>Of foreign
      derivation;<br/> <em>{Tattenai}</em> a
      <strong>Persian:</strong> -
      Tatnai.</description><br>
              </item></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>OSSH:</p>
    <p>      <div type="entry" n="8674"><br>
              <w lemma="תַּתְּנַי" morph="n-pr-m"
      POS="tat-ten-ah'-ee" xlit="Tattᵉnay" ID="H8674"
      xml:lang="x-pn">תתני</w><br>
              <list><br>
                <item>Tatnai = "gift"</item><br>
                <item>1) a Persian governor in Syria who opposed
      the rebuilding of Jerusalem</item><br>
              </list><br>
              <note type="exegesis">of foreign
      derivation;</note><br>
              <note
      type="explanation"><hi>Tattenai</hi>, a
      Persian</note><br>
              <note type="translation">Tatnai.</note><br>
            </div><br>
          </div><br>
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